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[MetalSlimeHunt]

There are lots of things about Paradox I just do not understand, from both the fans and the studio itself. For example, the Paradox games seem to go out of their way to never, ever show that Judaism existed.

[Dutchling]

Actually, CK (the original) has Jewish Khazars, and Victoria II (never played the first one) has Jewish people as well.

[kaian-a-coel]

I was fine riding around on Descan until he started vibrating and going 'BRRRRRRRM!'

It got weird at that point.

It got weirder when you take in account that post where you said your brain was persuaded, for a second, that you were a lesbian.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

There are lots of things about Paradox I just do not understand, from both the fans and the studio itself. For example, the Paradox games seem to go out of their way to never, ever show that Judaism existed.

what do you mean? can you give a few examples? i'm curious

[USEC_OFFICER]

There are lots of things about Paradox I just do not understand, from both the fans and the studio itself. For example, the Paradox games seem to go out of their way to never, ever show that Judaism existed.

I think it's more due to the way that the games are set up than any kind of concentrated effort on Paradox's part. The games are more concerned with religious and cultural majorities after all. Though then again, I'm a bit surprised that EU-X doesn't have any Jewish related events...

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Actually, CK (the original) has Jewish Khazars, and Victoria II (never played the first one) has Jewish people as well.

And yet CKII's Khazars are Tengri. As for Victoria II, sure, but by that point in the series religion has become an auxiliary issue. It barely does anything in Victoria and does nothing in Hearts of Iron.

There are lots of things about Paradox I just do not understand, from both the fans and the studio itself. For example, the Paradox games seem to go out of their way to never, ever show that Judaism existed.

I think it's more due to the way that the games are set up than any kind of concentrated effort on Paradox's part. The games are more concerned with religious and cultural majorities after all. Though then again, I'm a bit surprised that EU-X doesn't have any Jewish related events...

I don't think so. CKII has plenty of small religions and cultures, indeed the entire Heresy mechanic revolves around this. And you are correct, EU has no mention of Jews whatsoever.

All I know is that the Paradox team seems to have this bizarre obstinance against Jews that is applied to no other historical group, and I find that concerning.

[kaian-a-coel]

Maybe it's because the jewish religion has -as far as I know- negligible impact on geopolitics before the middle of the 20th century?

[scriver]

I believe there was a Judaic religion in EU: Rome. Back when they were actually a majority in a place.

[Descan]

Jewish courtiers and advisers were prevalent in enough areas to make them worth putting in.

[SealyStar]

I've never played the game, but I'm assuming there's some degree of financial management, in which case Jewishness is an underlying game mechanic.

[Descan]

* Descan stares at SealyStar

[SealyStar]

* Descan stares at SealyStar

Good thing I held back on asking whether there were comedy clubs and law firms too.

[Redzephyr01]

I've never played the game, but I'm assuming there's some degree of financial management, in which case Jewishness is an underlying game mechanic.

That wasn't funny.

[SealyStar]

Okay, this is headed someplace really bad really quickly.

Back on topic, my brother and I were discussing sales tax and he misinterpreted "cents on the dollar" as only applying to whole dollars. That is, with a 7% sales tax, he believed you would pay $1.07 on $1 - $1.99, $1.14 on $2 - $2.99, etc., but that there was no sales tax on things priced below one dollar, and claimed that this was why places always priced things at $n.99 instead of $n+1.

[scriver]

Actually, SealyStar is correct, if for the completely wrong reasons. The financial simulation is were Jews should have been the most influential, as it was historically. The financial simulation in CK2 is extremely barebones, however, and neither CK2 or EU3 allows for any identity of those you borrow money from, which also means banks don't hold any of the kind of influence they did in real life.

Jewish courtiers and advisers were prevalent in enough areas to make them worth putting in.

The only place I was aware of was Spain. Was there any others?

And regardless - you have courts of hundreds of people cut down to a dozen or two, and ministers and councillors in the dozens cut down to six advisor positions. At that point of abstraction, were the Jewish courtiers really important enough to add in?

And I'm not even against adding them in for flavour - one of the few mods I use for CK2 does add Jewish courtiers (to Iberian lords at least). But I certainly don't think their non-appearance in vanilla is because Paradox has something against Jews rather than it is because they weren't important enough to bother implementing.