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[sackhead]

http://www.truthism.com/
i am just going to leave this here...

got to love the  web design

[Graknorke]

http://www.truthism.com/
i am just going to leave this here...

got to love the  web design

Reading it made me cry.

Spoiler: The website is at least honest in some ways (click to show/hide)

You have an ego, but you cannot turn it off. So, in this particular instance, you can use your ego in either one of two ways:

1.) Reject the information on this website due to the fact that you do not want to feel like you've been lied to your entire life.

or

2.) Accept the information on this website, and then use it to make yourself feel superior to other human beings.

There are some obvious logical discrepancies though, such as there being evidence of lizard people, despite the evidence being destroyed.

[Dutchling]

"Reptilians are influencing people to actively pursue CO2 reduction programmes at this time."

[Vector]

@TumblrTXT: Do you honestly think that fat people aren’t beaten up or have ever been killed for being fat?

How can you be so stupid?

Plenty of people die because doctors assume, while diagnosing them, that their problem must have something to do with their fatness.

(Spoiler: it usually doesn't)

[Steelmagic]

"Reptilians are influencing people to actively pursue CO2 reduction programmes at this time."

I knew it, those scaly pieces of shit.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

yeah, morbid obesity carries some risks, but statistics show that people slightly above the weight doctors advise tend to live longer. there is a healthy weight, it's just higher than our society expects it to be

[Loud Whispers]

Plenty of people die because doctors assume, while diagnosing them, that their problem must have something to do with their fatness.

(Spoiler: it usually doesn't)

Unless your doctor is actively trying to be a malpracticed or malicious, this isn't the case. To start, even in the obese capital of the world 85%-90% of the diagnoses that obesity is causing their ailments are true. Straining your body beyond its limits IS extremely harmful, body builders and obsese alike. And secondly, there aren't many assumptions based on someone's weight, there are assumptions based on the evidence, which a lot of physicians even in America where the equipment is front of the line don't know what they should be using, and as such can often miss symptoms of serious diseases. MRI, ultrasound, x-rays, CT scans and stethoscopes all have their effectiveness reduced when they have to penetrate several layers of fat, some people cannot even fit into the scanners, physical exams become arduous tests of endurance for both patient and doctor e.t.c.
The problem does have a lot to do with their fatness. While telling people they're ok and fine when they're clearly not, look at the actual harm you are causing first. It's not a 'cultural problem' of body images, its the leading cause of death in America.

yeah, morbid obesity carries some risks, but statistics show that people slightly above the weight doctors advise tend to live longer. there is a healthy weight, it's just higher than our society expects it to be

It reduces your lifespan by up to 8 to 10 years, equivalent to smoking your entire life.

[Skyrunner]

http://www.truthism.com/
i am just going to leave this here...

got to love the  web design

Reading it made me cry.

Spoiler: The website is at least honest in some ways (click to show/hide)

You have an ego, but you cannot turn it off. So, in this particular instance, you can use your ego in either one of two ways:

1.) Reject the information on this website due to the fact that you do not want to feel like you've been lied to your entire life.

or

2.) Accept the information on this website, and then use it to make yourself feel superior to other human beings.

There are some obvious logical discrepancies though, such as there being evidence of lizard people, despite the evidence being destroyed.

Also, if you believe what that site says, why wouldn't the site be another plant by some higher-uppers? It merely exists to draw your attention away from the real ones in power ...

[Askot Bokbondeler]

yeah, morbid obesity carries some risks, but statistics show that people slightly above the weight doctors advise tend to live longer. there is a healthy weight, it's just higher than our society expects it to be

It reduces your lifespan by up to 8 to 10 years, equivalent to smoking your entire life.

acording to your link that's morbid obesity

"Overall, moderate obesity (BMI 30-35 kg/m) was found to reduce life expectancy by an average of three years, while morbid obesity (BMI 40-50 kg/ kg/m) reduces life expectancy by eight to ten years."

also:

in both sexes, mortality was lowest in the upper end of the ‘healthy’ range (BMI 22.5–25 kg/m)

acording to my girlfriend that's "fat", she's BMI 23 and has been trying to lose weight, and is being encouraged by doctors

[frostshotgg]

I'm curious, what's the mortality rate like in the underweight range, and how does that compare?

[Flying Dice]

From what I've read, it tends to be higher than at average weights, but doesn't approach the mortality rate among obese individuals. Here's a little bit on the subject; they conclude more or less that slim individuals are at an increased risk of early death despite dietary/other life conditions suggesting otherwise, but they can't explain it.


I do think, however, that there's a difference between individuals with a low BMI because of habitual dieting, and those who are at their optimal weight. My BMI is at 16.8 (which is pretty far underweight), but for my frame it's a healthy build. Moreover, I essentially cannot gain or lose weight at any significant level. When I'm in a period where I'm eating heavily without much exercise I don't gain weight, and when I'm eating one meal a day and hardly noticing I don't lose weight. The closest I can get is a few pounds of muscle gained or lost when I start or stop working. This is all purely anecdotal, of course, but my father is in a similar situation and is nearly 60 without any serious health concerns (despite having been a heavy smoker most of his life, to boot), while my paternal grandfather is the same, save for being close to 90 with no issues other than arthritis.


Basically, I think that the data may be skewed by people who are dieting excessively and forcing themselves below their healthy weights, as that pretty clearly would lead to health complications. It's common sense that forcing your body to gain or lose large amounts of weight is going to put stress on it.

[SealyStar]

Possibly even more crazy than Hollow Earth, behold Inverted Earth. Relaxing voice, though.

I... what?

The voice is relaxing, but I think that's mostly due to the guy being high as fuck.

[Loud Whispers]

acording to your link that's morbid obesity "Overall, moderate obesity (BMI 30-35 kg/m) was found to reduce life expectancy by an average of three years, while morbid obesity (BMI 40-50 kg/ kg/m) reduces life expectancy by eight to ten years."

yeah, morbid obesity carries some risks, but statistics show that people slightly above the weight doctors advise tend to live longer. there is a healthy weight, it's just higher than our society expects it to be

[Askot Bokbondeler]

acording to your link that's morbid obesity "Overall, moderate obesity (BMI 30-35 kg/m) was found to reduce life expectancy by an average of three years, while morbid obesity (BMI 40-50 kg/ kg/m) reduces life expectancy by eight to ten years."

yeah, morbid obesity carries some risks, but statistics show that people slightly above the weight doctors advise tend to live longer. there is a healthy weight, it's just higher than our society expects it to be

yes. i said those things.
i didn't dispute that morbid obesity is unhealthy, i said the "healthiest" bmi is above what doctors advise. your source puts it in the higher end of the normal range(22.5 to 25) while doctors often advise people to stay in the lower normal ranges. i read that somewhere, cant retrieve the source but it matches my experience.

[Graknorke]

So it's still within the normal range. I don't see the problem.