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[GuesssWho]

Well, I'm not like that. I worry and get sick with anticipation and feel like screaming. I read the end of mysteries first, too.

I'd feel better about death if I knew what came next and could prepare, but yeah.

[Fenrir]

This is the exact opposite of mine. Also, 'whole rant about heaven is a state of being and not a place'. I've talked about this before. I'm an atheist, but Heaven and Hell aren't places. They're the definition of being with or without God in your life. >.>

Not necessarily. If that is what everyone meant by the words, it would make the first line of The Lord's Prayer rather ridiculous. “Our father, who art in heaven...” I mean, I’m sure God has himself in his life, but I doubt anyone would bother to say it.

[Hanslanda]

Well, I'm not like that. I worry and get sick with anticipation and feel like screaming. I read the end of mysteries first, too.

I'd feel better about death if I knew what came next and could prepare, but yeah.

Wait. Enhance.

Well, I'm not like that. I worry and get sick with anticipation and feel like screaming. I read the end of mysteries first, too.

Enhance.

I read the end of mysteries first, too.

For the love of god, ENHANCE.

I read the end of mysteries first, too.

My god man... o.o I... I can't help you. You have severed the thread of prophecy. Either persist in this doomed world you have created for yourself, or regress to a previous save point.

Well, I'm not like that. I worry and get sick with anticipation and feel like screaming. I read the end of mysteries first, too.

I'd feel better about death if I knew what came next and could prepare, but yeah.

Now for the reply where I'm not joking around. This is an interesting reaction. I'm not a psychologist, but I want to say that this is some kind of reaction to being out of control of the situation. I'm a very laid back person, and not being in control of a situation doesn't bother me because I know me being in control is equally likely to make it better OR worse and thus I generally just roll with the punches. Do you generally resist outcomes you didn't have a hand in? I'm just asking because you've made me curious and my curiosity is an insatiable black hole of knowledge consumption.

[Descan]

But... You don't. There are no alternatives, no other options.
Reality doesn't shape itself to your will. It doesn't matter how much you with and hope and believe in an after life, that won't make one appear. In a similar way, if there is one, then it doesn't matter how many people don't believe in it, it will not just go away. There is no choice to be made, you get the hand you are dealt.

I think he meant something like, before he was born he didn't know what is was like to be alive.
And now that he is alive he would rather continue that way.

But death is the most amazing mystery you will ever encounter. o.O Why would you want to deny yourself that?

Because all signs point to that mystery being "well I have nothing to do now". Except there isn't even an -I- to say that! And I LIKE having an I!

When the alternative is to fuck around in the universe for a good few billion years, see everything seeable and figure out how to break entropy and make the party last forever, I think I can take not knowing what it's like to be in a dirt box in the ground.

Besides, I've heard of no afterlife that I'd actually like. Even Valhalla is not my cup of tea, it's all fighting and boozing, no discovery!

It's why I'm going into neuroscience, so I can make sure -I- am around, not in the ground, and not someone else impersonating me because I broke mental continuity by scanning my brain and shoving the copy in a computer, then destroying the original. (Whoever thought up that idea is irrevocably stupid, if they couldn't grasp "Heeey... That would just be a copy... Not me... :C")


Edit: Curiosity! THAT'S why! Because sure, maybe death is a great big party. But, I AM going to die. Eventually. Hopefully never, but eventually -something- is going to happen. It's very hard, if not impossible, for me to make sure death NEVER happens. And when I do die, whether it's tomorrow or at the end of all time, THEN I can find out what's happening, if anything.

In the MEAN time, I'd like to stick around and discover everything I can, which is best handled by being an immortal machine god. I mean, it's just simple logic.

[MaximumZero]

But... You don't. There are no alternatives, no other options.
Reality doesn't shape itself to your will. It doesn't matter how much you with and hope and believe in an after life, that won't make one appear. In a similar way, if there is one, then it doesn't matter how many people don't believe in it, it will not just go away. There is no choice to be made, you get the hand you are dealt.

I think he meant something like, before he was born he didn't know what is was like to be alive.
And now that he is alive he would rather continue that way.

But death is the most amazing mystery you will ever encounter. o.O Why would you want to deny yourself that?

Because all signs point to that mystery being "well I have nothing to do now". Except there isn't even an -I- to say that! And I LIKE having an I!

When the alternative is to fuck around in the universe for a good few billion years, see everything seeable and figure out how to break entropy and make the party last forever, I think I can take not knowing what it's like to be in a dirt box in the ground.

Besides, I've heard of no afterlife that I'd actually like. Even Valhalla is not my cup of tea, it's all fighting and boozing, no discovery!

It's why I'm going into neuroscience, so I can make sure -I- am around, not in the ground, and not someone else impersonating me because I broke mental continuity by scanning my brain and shoving the copy in a computer, then destroying the original. (Whoever thought up that idea is irrevocably stupid, if they couldn't grasp "Heeey... That would just be a copy... Not me... :C")


Edit: Curiosity! THAT'S why! Because sure, maybe death is a great big party. But, I AM going to die. Eventually. Hopefully never, but eventually -something- is going to happen. It's very hard, if not impossible, for me to make sure death NEVER happens. And when I do die, whether it's tomorrow or at the end of all time, THEN I can find out what's happening, if anything.

In the MEAN time, I'd like to stick around and discover everything I can, which is best handled by being an immortal machine god. I mean, it's just simple logic.

I would be okay with Valhalla. Right up until Ragnarok, which is supposed to be the end of time.

[SalmonGod]

I'd be alright with the end of time part, hanging out with Gaspar and Spekkio under a single streetlamp floating in the void.

[Devling]

Meh. I personally would prefer some kind of inter-universal reincarnation.

No end, and you can't remember what happened last time, so it doesn't really get boring.

I think my preferable death scenario lines up with this one.

[Flying Dice]

Any sort of existence is preferable to nonexistence in my book. If you exist, then no matter how terrible your condition is, there is always the possibility of improvement. There isn't a way to "get better" from having your constituent molecules scattered to the metaphorical four winds (more accurately, scattered to the bowels of thousands of insects and millions of bacteria). Unless you have a completely overpowered sort of immortality, that is.

Heck, even floating in a void of nothingness after the end of the universe is preferable to death, and that's if you don't figure out how to stop entropic decay or hop back into a different, younger universe. If you got really good with one-way travel between universes and times you'd potentially have an infinite lifespan, given that the number of potential universes is already infinite and every time you jumped you would create a new cluster.

But when if I do die, I want to make a spectacle of it. Screw going quietly.

[Max White]

What is the difference between dying and being reincarnation with no memory of past events?
'You', that is everything that makes you who you are, ends either way.

[Xantalos]

But... You don't. There are no alternatives, no other options.
Reality doesn't shape itself to your will. It doesn't matter how much you with and hope and believe in an after life, that won't make one appear. In a similar way, if there is one, then it doesn't matter how many people don't believe in it, it will not just go away. There is no choice to be made, you get the hand you are dealt.

I intend to beg to differ.

[Devling]

What is the difference between dying and being reincarnation with no memory of past events?
'You', that is everything that makes you who you are, ends either way.

Yes, but in some sense you still exist. Even though you don't have your memories, you still kinda have your inbuilt nature.

[Max White]

Yes, but in some sense you still exist. Even though you don't have your memories, you still kinda have your inbuilt nature.

What inbuilt nature? Explain. What is inbuilt nature? What does it do? What makes it what it is?

[SalmonGod]

Meh. I personally would prefer some kind of inter-universal reincarnation.

No end, and you can't remember what happened last time, so it doesn't really get boring.

I think my preferable death scenario lines up with this one.

If you can't remember what happened last time, then how is it still you?  Something I still have trouble wrapping my head around regarding reincarnation.  Unless you also believe that your spirit evolves over time, developing an innate wisdom, or that you eventually achieve enlightenment and your enlightened self transcends the confines of space/time.  Then it makes sense.  Note:  both these ideas were discussed as actual spiritual beliefs by my buddhist philosophy professor, who was personal friends with a high level rinpoche.

[GuesssWho]

Yeah, I want to know who I am. Having to start over from scratch would suck.

I also don't want the really depressing kind of immortality where you go insane with boredom after a while.

Essentially I'd like to be on really good drugs for eternity LOL

[Devling]

Yes, but in some sense you still exist. Even though you don't have your memories, you still kinda have your inbuilt nature.

What inbuilt nature? Explain. What is inbuilt nature? What does it do? What makes it what it is?

Well, I imagine that if a reincarnation system did exist, you when you are reincarnated you still have some nature left over from your old life. (Nature in the sense of nature vs nurture.)