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Author Topic: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say  (Read 1047754 times)

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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #1635 on: October 01, 2012, 08:48:00 am »

If you're asking whether it can give "enough" pleasure to result in an addiction, then then answer is yes, but it depends on the person. I'm also not a neuroscientist so I couldn't explain the difference between this "iDose" thing and regular music (assuming there is one).


I'm not kidding when I say anything can become a behavioral addiction. Any time someone uses an activity to deal with stress for long enough, they can become addicted to it. Their body's used to the regular impact of pleasurable brain chemicals it provides, and stopping that activity can lead to all the regular effects of withdrawal. Especially nasty are the vicious cycle ones, like overeating (adds stress due to being overweight, means more desire to eat, etc), gambling (stress from losing money), or any activity with shame attached to it (porn, masturbation, etc).
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« Reply #1636 on: October 01, 2012, 08:50:51 am »

My brother is currently dealing with apathy being used as a self defense mechanism... apathy is now what is causing problems in his life
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« Reply #1637 on: October 01, 2012, 08:51:23 am »

That strikes me as closer to depression. Which is also really really bad.
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« Reply #1638 on: October 01, 2012, 08:56:15 am »

Yeah, my brother and me both have Bi-Polar 2 (Aka mostly depression, very little mania). But its also specifically how he dealt with problems growing up. If something was bothering him, he chose not to care about it. NOW he's doing things like quitting jobs or not fulfilling responsibilities because he has a hard time caring about ANYTHING
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #1639 on: October 01, 2012, 12:33:23 pm »

Yeah but I thought thats more subtle influence. Doesn't addiction usually require substantial?


Nope. You don't need anything but repetition for addiction, as far as I understand it.
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« Reply #1640 on: October 01, 2012, 01:53:28 pm »

Repetition and desire, I'd think. Unless you count habit as an addiction.

Either desire to have the high/endorphins/action, or desire to not NOT have it. Like, drinking to get back to a "normal" state.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #1641 on: October 01, 2012, 04:01:37 pm »

If something was bothering him, he chose not to care about it. NOW he's doing things like quitting jobs or not fulfilling responsibilities because he has a hard time caring about ANYTHING
So... that's a bad thing?
Shit.
I suppose it's a least a good thing for me that I care enough to be somewhat concerned about how much I care.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #1642 on: October 01, 2012, 04:24:55 pm »

Repetition and desire, I'd think. Unless you count habit as an addiction.

If I could kick my addictions to sleep and air I'd be so much happier. But, man, the withdraw symptoms are a killer.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #1643 on: October 01, 2012, 05:10:44 pm »

In my logic class today:
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Some Girl: I was wondering, where are you from? I mean, I can't place your accent.
Vaguely Middle-Eastern Teacher: I'm Dutch. I was born in the Netherlands.
Some Girl: Wait, really? I thought the Dutch were my people. White.
Me: *headdesk*
Thankfully, class ended immediately afterward.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #1644 on: October 01, 2012, 05:14:08 pm »

She was referring to ethnicity instead of nationality?
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« Reply #1645 on: October 01, 2012, 05:18:07 pm »

Not sure what she was referring to, honestly. She didn't specify, just asked where he was from. I guess she was expecting Iraq or India or something.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #1646 on: October 01, 2012, 05:21:52 pm »

PTF.
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« Reply #1647 on: October 01, 2012, 05:31:14 pm »

Rather than "referring to ethnicity instead of nationality" she was conflating them. Perhaps akin to cognitive dissonance, some people seem to feel confused when other people don't self-categorize the way we categorize them. When she says "where are you from?" she's thinking "what nationality is your genetic origin?" because that's how she categorizes that person. But people asked about where they came from don't tend to self-categorize in that way.

I've seen people follow up "where are you from?" when they didn't get their expected response (ethnic origin) with "No, I mean 'where' are you 'from'?"

Can get pretty funny in a way, because i have heard about some 5th generation Australians of Chinese descent (ancestors came to Australia in the 1850's), still labelled as Chinese, and asked "where they are from", by white people who are 2nd generation settlers, and consider themselves thoroughly Australian.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #1648 on: October 01, 2012, 05:45:58 pm »

She was also asking specifically about his accent, so from his perspective it would be more than understandable to answer with where his accent came from.
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Re: Amazingly Stupid Things You've Heard People Say
« Reply #1649 on: October 01, 2012, 06:07:42 pm »

In my logic class today:
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Some Girl: I was wondering, where are you from? I mean, I can't place your accent.
Vaguely Middle-Eastern Teacher: I'm Dutch. I was born in the Netherlands.
Some Girl: Wait, really? I thought the Dutch were my people. White.
Me: *headdesk*
Thankfully, class ended immediately afterward.

You have a "logic class"? What school is this?

Actually, that only makes the comment funnier.
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