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[Hanslanda]

Well... Smoking isn't such a great example of this, because secondhand smoke does cause serious damage to those around a smoker. Now, the smoker may be killing himself off faster, but not being harmful to other people was a criterium in this discussion.

Honestly, and someone will probably ridicule me for this, but I believe secondhand smoke kills faster than just smoking. I feel like I'm going to get cancer before all my smoker friends, and I've had maybe two whole cigarettes in my whole life.

[kaijyuu]

Well it can kill faster, but it's statistically unlikely. Second hand smoke has a lower concentration of all the bad stuff.

[Zrk2]

Well... Smoking isn't such a great example of this, because secondhand smoke does cause serious damage to those around a smoker. Now, the smoker may be killing himself off faster, but not being harmful to other people was a criterium in this discussion.

Honestly, and someone will probably ridicule me for this, but I believe secondhand smoke kills faster than just smoking. I feel like I'm going to get cancer before all my smoker friends, and I've had maybe two whole cigarettes in my whole life.

I think there was a study to that effect; it had something to do with second hand smoke not having been filtered like it is for the actual smoker.

[Korbac]

If the room isn't ventilated, you're breathing everything hanging in the air, while the smoker is just breathing through his filter. It's possible.

[Hanslanda]

Well it can kill faster, but it's statistically unlikely. Second hand smoke has a lower concentration of all the bad stuff.

You underestimate how little my friends care about me being in vast clouds of their secondhand smoke. And I seem to attract smoke very well. In a vast crowd of smokers, I will be the only person wreathed in smoke. It'd be a lot cooler if I could conjure fire though...

[kaijyuu]

Hah, smoke powers aren't all that bad either

[lordcooper]

It is possible for someone to only smoke outside and/or only when not in the presence of non-smokers you know.

As for drugs, I take quite a few different varieties on an occasional basis.  Tobacco is the only one I regret at present.

If the room isn't ventilated, you're breathing everything hanging in the air, while the smoker is just breathing through his filter. It's possible.

Well, no.  Smokers need to breathe too.

[Flying Dice]

It is possible for someone to only smoke outside and/or only when not in the presence of non-smokers you know.

Something being possible doesn't mean that something actually happens all that often.

[Hanslanda]

Hah, smoke powers aren't all that bad either

I mean it, though. I attract smoke. Like, there will be an open air current flowing out the window and the friend will be downwind from me, and I will still end up breathing smoke somehow.

It is possible for someone to only smoke outside and/or only when not in the presence of non-smokers you know.

Something being possible doesn't mean that something actually happens all that often.

It is entirely possible that I will phase through the walls of my house. It doesn't happen much.

[lordcooper]

Well I stick to those rules anyway.  Poisoning people is bad, mkay.

[Hanslanda]

Well I stick to those rules anyway.  Poisoning people is bad, mkay.

That's because you are considerate.

[10ebbor10]

I did specify contracting, rather than spreading.  I like to think that people have a right to do whatever they like with/to their own body, so long as it doesn't prevent others from doing the same.  Besides, we live in a world where resources are becoming increasingly scarce.  Having a few less people burning up said resources isn't a bad thing, especially when they're the cause of their own death.  It's like smoking tobacco in my eyes.  Very stupid, but who the fuck am I (or you) to say that something that doesn't harm a third party is immoral?

As for otherkin, I don't get it at all.  Truth be told, I can't wrap my head around transgender folk either.  I'm absolutely fine with both though.  There are a lot of people who are very different to me, and that's pretty awesome IMO.

Live and let live, or die.  Whatever.   So long as it's all above board and consensual, I see no reason to judge.

I what they want to do effects only them I am cool with it.
If they want to smoke/get HIV on purpose I am not, because it costs the government a lot of money and screws everyone else up assuming they live anywhere where their is any degree of socialized medicine or governmental care for the elderly (eg. America, most of Europe and the other first world nations).

Actually apparently smoking saves society money by killing off people faster even though they spend a lot of money combating the effect of it.
I suppose that means that smoking is totally fine then (excluding the fact that it smells terrible and is annoying).

There have been propositions to cut these things out of health insurance. Ie, chain smoker gets lung cancer. His problem, governement ain't paying for anything.

Problem is that it would hurt the poor parts of the population worse than the richer parts,...

[Oliolli]

I support the idea of cutting those from any social health insurance: smoking, obesity, alcohol poisoning etc.

As for it hurting the poor people more... if they're so poor, how can they afford to smoke?

[scriver]

I support the idea of cutting those from any social health insurance: smoking, obesity, alcohol poisoning etc.

As for it hurting the poor people more... if they're so poor, how can they afford to smoke?

Can't tell if serious or trolling.

[Wrex]

I support the idea of cutting those from any social health insurance: smoking, obesity, alcohol poisoning etc.

As for it hurting the poor people more... if they're so poor, how can they afford to smoke?

Can't tell if serious or trolling.

Same.