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Night or morning?
« on: July 30, 2012, 05:32:09 pm »

I was just watching a video and someone said "2am on a Tuesday night". This got me to thinking; What did they mean? If it's 2am on a Tuesday, is it Tuesday morning? Did they mean Monday night, but somehow two hours into Tuesday? Was it Tuesday night, but 2am on a Wednesday?

I guess what got me thinking about this is the odd phrasing. I know they meant 2am on Tuesday morning, but I don't know how. The phrase itself makes no sense whatsoever, yet I understood it. It's sort of like saying 'The third one too' (3rd 1 2). I know what it means, I can understand it, but the sentence itself is completely nonsensical.

Anyway, just my random thoughts on a random subject. Let me know what you think!
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Re: Night or morning?
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2012, 05:34:38 pm »

I consider "morning" to be during and after the sun rising.
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Re: Night or morning?
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 05:54:40 pm »

I speak in terms of wake cycles when possible, to avoid this confusion, referencing the day at the start of the cycle as the cycle day. (Ex. 2PM Tuesday to 4AM Wednesday is my Tuesday wake cycle.)
When people are speaking casually, in context, I don't mind, because it's usually clear.
One announcement in particular has confused me. It was for 2AM on Saturday. Except, it was technically Sunday. If it would have said "Saturday night", there wouldn't have been a problem. But apparently, that timing system had its own sense of days. It wasn't anything carrying over from, say, 11PM on Saturday, it was purely on Sunday.

My overall thought on this is that, if it's dark outside, it can be night. And if that night started on Tuesday, then when it's technically Wednesday it will still be the Tuesday night. However, it will also be Wednesday morning, because morning is any time between 12AM (midnight) and 12PM (noon).
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Re: Night or morning?
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 09:46:19 pm »

Yes, well know that technically it goes from one day to the next at midnight and hence becomes "morning".  Anyone who feels the need to attach importance to this is probably fascinated that Greenland is icy and Iceland is green.

In my book, it stops being "today" sometime around 4AM.  Not dawn, but certainly close enough to dawn that you can't claim it's still the same day.  If I have to say "2AM Tuesday" I add in "night", and 99 out of 100 people know I'm technically referring to 2AM Wednesday morning and don't need clarification.  I personally tie the definition of "morning" to be about when the sky starts getting lighter, and I find very little disagreement.
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Re: Night or morning?
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2012, 07:24:47 am »

it does kind of make sense for days to run sunrise to sunrise.
as it can start geting lighter about 4/5 AM that is kind of the next day.
useing midnight as a change over does not feel the same as the sun rise.
after all you iuou cant tell 11:30PM from 2:30AM, but every one knows when the sunrises.
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Re: Night or morning?
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2012, 05:14:55 pm »

after all you iuou cant tell 11:30PM from 2:30AM, but every one knows when the sunrises.
Most people work off of clocks now, not the sun. Many people can't even see the sun for much of the day. The sun rises at a different clock time every day, and every day lasts a different amount of time.
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Re: Night or morning?
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2012, 02:08:35 am »

The method I use is to ask myself 'Would a regular person be more likely to see this time from staying up late or getting up early?'. If the former, it counts as night of the previous calendar day. If the latter, it counts as the morning of the current calendar day. If it's ambiguous, it counts as the latter.
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Re: Night or morning?
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2012, 03:30:34 am »

To me, it's morning as soon as it's one minute past midnight. I don't put much stock in sunlight because of the huge seasonal variation here up north.
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Re: Night or morning?
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2012, 06:29:03 am »

Sunrise = morning

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Re: Night or morning?
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2012, 10:42:00 am »

Morning is whenever you wake up.  Some days have been known to last for 48 hours or more.
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Re: Night or morning?
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2012, 11:34:21 am »

after years of working Graveyard shift (generally 10pm-6am.) I can say that the concepts of night, morning, etc are whatever you wish them to be.
but for the video it was most likely actually wednesday at that point.