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Author Topic: WARNING: Massive security exploit found in Ubisoft DRM; patch is up  (Read 6391 times)

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Re: WARNING: Massive security exploit found in Ubisoft DRM
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2012, 10:24:53 am »
Well thanks for letting us know OP, I just wish I was surprised.
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Re: WARNING: Massive security exploit found in Ubisoft DRM
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2012, 10:31:00 am »
Once again publishers try their hardest to make sure that even people who buy their games will want to download the no-CD no-DRM crack.

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Re: WARNING: Massive security exploit found in Ubisoft DRM
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2012, 10:33:38 am »
Quote from: UltraValican on July 30, 2012, 10:12:05 am
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Companies have right to stop piracy
stopping piracy is not possible

the time and resources that it takes to implement some worthless drm scheme are time and resources that could be better served by improving the actual game in some way
I agree, but let me rephrase that. Companies have the right to try to impede pirates as much as possible. Just like I have the right not to buy their product if their DRM is too intrusive/inconvenient.

There comes a point where DRM and copy protection measures are so intrusive, harmful, or deceptive that you have to wonder why they're legal in the first place.
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Re: WARNING: Massive security exploit found in Ubisoft DRM
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2012, 10:37:59 am »
Too true. And we passed that long ago by the way. This is the... what? Fifth? Time DRM has bricked/destroyed security on people's computers?

Previously, I would never consider getting games from anything but approved sources, but now I almost wonder if I should consider illegal sources safer. At least common antivirus/etc. programs aren't hardwired to ignore possible threats there; unlike corporate attack programs...

Oh, wasn't there some company a few years ago that lobbied to change the term to "Digital Consumer Empowerment"? Doubleplus-ungood!
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2012, 10:40:35 am »
What we need is a return to the paper wheels of ages past.
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Re: WARNING: Massive security exploit found in Ubisoft DRM
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2012, 10:41:26 am »
Yeah, all this DRM really, really sucks.
I have one single game on my PC that has DRM (well, not counting for steam, steam is perfectly fine with me, and i have it on most of my PC games)  and it bothers me very much. Its RF:G, and GFWL doesnt even have a proper chat function :/
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Re: WARNING: Massive security exploit found in Ubisoft DRM
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2012, 10:42:09 am »
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"Digital Consumer Empowerment"

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Re: WARNING: Massive security exploit found in Ubisoft DRM
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2012, 10:44:32 am »
That actually made me laugh. Good one!
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Re: WARNING: Massive security exploit found in Ubisoft DRM
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2012, 10:44:45 am »
Theres also the point between 'somewhat helpful base of protection' (Serial keys are rather easy to keygen eventually, but you need to know such things exist in the first place to find that out) and 'Shut up and deal with it if you want to play, you potential pirate' (Most of what Ubisoft has done, always-on, etc). Passing that point is less helping legal customers and more acting like an angry  mama bear over your product.
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Re: WARNING: Massive security exploit found in Ubisoft DRM
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2012, 11:37:59 am »
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Re: WARNING: Massive security exploit found in Ubisoft DRM
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2012, 11:49:22 am »
Added to OP.
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Re: WARNING: Massive security exploit found in Ubisoft DRM; patch is up
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2012, 12:21:40 pm »
I can confirm that patch is bunk.

Didn't have UPlay installed, exploit didn't work.  Installed UPlay with the patch, exploit worked.  Removed all traces of the damnable thing, exploit doesn't work.
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Re: WARNING: Massive security exploit found in Ubisoft DRM; patch is up
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2012, 12:42:01 pm »
I don't know why modern antivirus/antispyware/antirootkit software doesn't even pick up these things, much less offer to fix them.
Morally, they have a responsibility to their customers to subvert intrusive rootkit/monitoring programs, regardless of their source. That's what they paid for for heaven's sake! Disable unwanted tracking/security-breaching software without removing functionality from other programs.

Reminds me of the time I heard some big antivirus company (I forget which one) was partnering with the USA government to ensure that future versions wouldn't pick up their "wiretapping" software.
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Re: WARNING: Massive security exploit found in Ubisoft DRM; patch is up
« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2012, 12:46:01 pm »
It's not a case against DRM, it's a case against poor coding.  Unfortunately, the two seem to go hand-in-hand.
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Re: WARNING: Massive security exploit found in Ubisoft DRM; patch is up
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2012, 12:54:24 pm »
Quote from: Matz05 on July 30, 2012, 12:42:01 pm
I don't know why modern antivirus/antispyware/antirootkit software doesn't even pick up these things, much less offer to fix them.
Morally, they have a responsibility to their customers to subvert intrusive rootkit/monitoring programs, regardless of their source. That's what they paid for for heaven's sake! Disable unwanted tracking/security-breaching software without removing functionality from other programs.

Reminds me of the time I heard some big antivirus company (I forget which one) was partnering with the USA government to ensure that future versions wouldn't pick up their "wiretapping" software.

AV/Anti-Root Kits aren't magic. They can't magically look at 3rd party software and decide what parts of it work and what parts of it don't. This is bad code that leads to an exploit, not malware. And any software that correctly targeted this thing as a problem would have broken Uplay functionality. AV can't fix people's code, it can only prevent parts of it from executing.

Sorry, this thing is silly, but you're basically wishing AV was magical when it's not. No amount of smartly coded AV can counter poorly formulated code and/or 3rd party applets. Much less fix its problems.

As more games link into your web browser for functionality, the more common problems of this nature are going to become.
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