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Re: Cloth shoes are serious business
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2012, 12:52:01 pm »

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That's nothing - there's been at least one documented incident of a dwarf being killed by a falling sock.
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Re: Cloth shoes are serious business
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2012, 01:25:13 pm »

Good ol' Dwarf Fortress, capable of weaponizing EVERYTHING, even air.
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Re: Cloth shoes are serious business
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2012, 02:05:10 pm »

This thread is so full of win that I may spontaneously combust.
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Re: Cloth shoes are serious business
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2012, 04:55:00 pm »

Someone should do a challenge in community games where your only method of combat can be this(and possibly wrestlers? But don't train them of course). The catch? No sealing off your fort. You better have enough heavy stuff ready to dump over the invaders heads from the sky. In addition, if you see anyone attempt to manually damage an enemy with their body, you can decide their fate. Just in case, how long is the average dorf's view range, so that we know how high to build the floors. Due to this... feature, stone mugs actually might be useful for something other than shoving at traders... and possibly even more useful than before at doing so.
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Re: Cloth shoes are serious business
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2012, 04:57:02 pm »

Just in case, how long is the average dorf's view range, so that we know how high to build the floors. Due to this... feature, stone mugs actually might be useful for something other than shoving at traders... and possibly even more useful than before at doing so.
Why have the useless crap be hauled by Dwarves? Hatches and levers would make great murder holes.

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Re: Cloth shoes are serious business
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2012, 05:02:59 pm »

Dwarves like their clothes heavily starched.
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Re: Cloth shoes are serious business
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2012, 05:33:18 pm »

Dwarves like their clothes heavily starched.
God, no kidding.
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Re: Cloth shoes are serious business
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2012, 05:54:44 pm »

Hatches and levers? No, the only proper way is a bridge designated for dump. One lever pull would coat your entire entrance in useless crap. Could also be a fun way to dispatch traders.

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Re: Cloth shoes are serious business
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2012, 07:26:38 pm »

Now, I'm tempted to throw in some large, serrated glass disks I got laying around. Betcha' one of them can cut a gobbo clean in half.
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2012, 07:31:31 pm »

I got an idea. Pressure plates linked to hatches 6-z levels above, with items on the hatches. Would be epic.l
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« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2012, 08:25:22 pm »

This thread is so full of win that I may spontaneously combust.
Don't you mean you might !!spontaneously!! ?  :D

Has anyone posted the results of creating a pressure plate drop trap that removes a retracting bridge so a bunch of useless crap gets dropped on invaders loony-toons style?  I remember the discussion when falling damage was first introduced those few months ago.
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Re: Cloth shoes are serious business
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2012, 08:34:37 pm »

This thread is so full of win that I may spontaneously combust.
Don't you mean you might !!spontaneously!! ?  :D

Has anyone posted the results of creating a pressure plate drop trap that removes a retracting bridge so a bunch of useless crap gets dropped on invaders loony-toons style?  I remember the discussion when falling damage was first introduced those few months ago.

This and Drawbridge Defense are my next two goals, but I'm going to add Fortress Defense so I have someone to kill. Goblins aren't near numerous enough for me.
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Re: Cloth shoes are serious business
« Reply #27 on: July 30, 2012, 08:50:43 pm »

Now, I'm tempted to throw in some large, serrated glass disks I got laying around. Betcha' one of them can cut a gobbo clean in half.

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Re: Cloth shoes are serious business
« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2012, 09:26:14 pm »

Got two questions:

Does the object in question matter?  IE, would a boulder do more damage than a sock?  Or would an edged weapon do slashing damage?  Etc.

Does the distance it drops matter?  Would something be more effective falling from 10 z levels than just 1?

I had an identical situation to the OP (posted in the Biggest Facepalms thread), triggered the DAS in the down position with 1,000+ trash items on it and caused the dwarf pulling the lever to cease to be, as well as killing and injuring several war lions many blocks away.  The items launched (at least the weapons) acted like they would if they'd bee swung at the unlucky target by a creature or weapon trap.  Dunno if the way they behave when launched (DAS fail/win or Dwarven Auto Shotgun which needs a different acronym), or if just falling works separately.  I'll do some science in the morning.  In the meantime, it seems like bolts/arrows would be an excellent choice for this if that's the case.  Can be made in large stacks quickly with minimal resources and do piercing damage that can insta-kill through armor with a little luck.  Also come in large quantities from goblin claus.  Just have to do some more science to see if a stack will be launched/dropped as a stack or as individual bolts.  From my one experience with the DAS mishap it seems like they shoot off individually because I ended up with a couple dozen broken arrows all over the ground after I cleaned it all up and only had a couple stacks in the pile.  Would be nice, just drop a stack of silver bolts on each section of the bridge then each square beneath gets pelted by 25 bolts at once.  If not, then need to find a way to split the stacks into individual bolts.  Would also be really useful for auto shotguns.  Only problem I can see is that a portion would break, unlike socks or boulders, but would still be good for delivering a massive volume of fire at low cost. 

Sorry for the stream-of-consciousness word vomit.  Can't wait to test this though... would love to see a couple thousand bolts shooting out at once and making a whole goblin siege look like Leonidas at the end of 300.  The thousand Mountainhomes of the Dwarven Empire arise beneath you!  Our bolts will blot out the sun!
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Re: Cloth shoes are serious business
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2012, 09:33:03 pm »

Combat log from arena mode, 100 pig tail fiber shoes dropped on a dwarf from 2z above:
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The dwarf didn't die, but is effectively disabled for life.

I think falling object damage is a wee bit unbalanced.


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