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[Boksi]

2 votes for moving the capital, 3 votes against. 1 vote for researching stargazing.

Well, I'm not gonna call it just yet. Just a reminder, Mayapanpenponpu was named such because the name couldn't be longer.

[stabbymcstabstab]

Did I vote for moving it yet? if not lets do it.

[Karnewarrior]

I say we add some words to our new vocabulary.

PonShen, perhaps. PonpuNez, maybe?

[Satarus]

I also vote move the capitol to the main land to free up stability and upkeep spent on keeping stable. 

Also get stargazing.  Get those tech buildings early for the long march to monarchy.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Free Boski 2013!

[Toaster]

I vote against moving it, for now.


No, this isn't a bump.  Why do you ask?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It's funny, I was just thinking about this thread.

[LordSlowpoke]

Why no sir, this is a bump.

* LordSlowpoke hammers thread incessantly

[Boksi]

Why no sir, this is a bump.

* LordSlowpoke hammers thread incessantly

Stop it, you'll scratch the paint!

I'll see if I can't get an update out before next year. I had a slight hard drive failure but I'm pretty sure the saves and the mod are still okay. I just haven't bothered to reinstall Civ 4 because of school.

[A Real Libertarian]

2 votes for moving the capital, 3 votes against. 1 vote for researching stargazing.

Well, I'm not gonna call it just yet. Just a reminder, Mayapanpenponpu was named such because the name couldn't be longer.

Initiating in-character mode:

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What are we still discussing this for? We are Jivaro! Conquest is in our blood!
We have brought oblivion to the Celts, the Persians and the Huns alike!
We have expanded from our small poor island beneath the boot of the world to standing atop the throne of dominance!
We have broken the Neanderthals to our will and made them the tip of our spear!

We of course shall move our capital! So what if Rome didn't? Do you want to follow those weaklings? Broken under the weight of their arrogance and fear of expansion.
With change comes stability.
With stability comes surplus garrisons, to conquer our enemies!
With stability comes industrial development, to arm our military!
With stability comes scientific discoveries, to find ever better ways of crushing our enemies
With stability comes cultural advancement, to tell our foes what awaits them so they may know despair!

We will progress ever onward and upward to spread across the world and then turn our attention to the planets above and the stars beyond!
We shall not stop until the heavens burn with the name Jivaro!

So I ask of you, shall we cower from greatness like all others, or shall we make it ours?

What say you?

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Ending in-character mode:

So put me down for moving the capital please.

[A Real Libertarian]

Oh, and let's go straight to Bronze Working.

As soon as Copper Working is done Metal Casing opens and after that's done Bronze Working opens immediately.

Bronze Working gives us units but more importantly we can upgrade to Despotism.

Limit of 10 cities before getting a penalty and the penalty is 2 unhappiness instead of 3, plus 30% maintenance increase for distance, number and overseas cities instead of 50% maintenance increase for those, plus a 25% bonus to military production.

So yeah...

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[BishopX]

I vote that we move the capital.

Also, you can't have too many free tech wonders.

[A Real Libertarian]

I think now is the time for internal reform.

The Aztecs are far north across deserts and marsh, while the Brazilians are within a daggers throw of the Cherokee heartland. With any luck they'll fight each other with the barbarians attacking the Cherokee constantly.

OK:
1. Move the capital to Aberpanapopuma, it's our largest city and near the center of our empire.
2. Research Bronze Working for Despotism. Massive. massive benefits, little drawbacks.
3. Research Candle Making & Oil Lamps, 25% bonus to workers each.
4. Research The Wheel, now we can make mud paths, 1/2 cost for movement over mud paths and our workers will be building them like lightning. Never, ever underestimate the advantage of internal movement.
5. Research Masonry, lots of buildings is always good.
6. Build Barracks in every city we haven't already, every XP we get at the start is an XP we don't need to fight for.
7. Is the tech for Town Watchmen nearby? If so, grab it as soon as practical, Riot Police I + immediate upgrade to Riot Police II via Barracks + 50% city defense bonus = massive decrease in crime, instability and forces necessary to hold cities against assault.
8. Build Military, Science, Industrial and Commerce buildings in that order. Military is an utter requirement for conquest, Science improves everything, Industrial means it takes less time to build material and Commerce isn't needed at this point with the advantages of moving the capital and implementing Despotism.

So what do you all think?

[USEC_OFFICER]

So what do you all think?

I think we could use a couple of updates.

[Toaster]

I think now is the time for internal reform.

The Aztecs are far north across deserts and marsh, while the Brazilians are within a daggers throw of the Cherokee heartland. With any luck they'll fight each other with the barbarians attacking the Cherokee constantly.

OK:
1. Move the capital to Aberpanapopuma, it's our largest city and near the center of our empire.
2. Research Bronze Working for Despotism. Massive. massive benefits, little drawbacks.
3. Research Candle Making & Oil Lamps, 25% bonus to workers each.
4. Research The Wheel, now we can make mud paths, 1/2 cost for movement over mud paths and our workers will be building them like lightning. Never, ever underestimate the advantage of internal movement.

I agree with everything minus the strikeout.  It is indeed time to consolidate our gains.  I also heartily endorse the last option.  We have a bazillion turns to build roads and a long future to get benefit out of them- there's really no reason for all our cities- even the far-flung ones- not to have roads connecting them.  If you feel brave you could even start running them toward our next conquests.