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redrowen

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Taming War Dragons?
« on: July 28, 2012, 04:14:41 am »

Hey all,

Is it possible to tame war cave dragons?  I have a dozen or so trapped in cages (from invasions).  I checked Z menu to see how I assign a trainer to him, though I don't see the option anywhere.

Following: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=105636.0

Anyone know the answer?

(Seems today I'm having all sorts of new fun with traps that I didn't have before, heh)
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Re: Taming War Dragons?
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2012, 04:45:10 am »

I know that most animals brought in goblin invasions, may be trained, but soon after training they revert to there wild state and try to find a tasty dwarf too eat.  Though I haven't tried to train goblin pets since 34.01.
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2012, 05:02:23 am »

I really want a Cave Dragon army.  They keep bringing me more but so far I can't see any way to set a trainer to them :(
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Re: Taming War Dragons?
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2012, 05:18:21 am »

animals from invasion will always be hostile to you , because they have tasted dwarf blood and are trained to kill dwarves.
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2012, 05:31:47 am »

Awe :(

Even if they never had a chance to kill anything?

That's a shame
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Re: Taming War Dragons?
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2012, 06:36:41 am »

animals from invasion will always be hostile to you , because they have tasted dwarf blood and are trained to kill dwarves.

But... I had goblin invasions on war cave dragons, giant toads and voracious cave crawlers, I can tame the toads and cave crawlers but not the war cave dragons, so maybe its because the cave dragons are trained for war by a non-dwarf civ?
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2012, 07:03:18 am »

Maybe this works?
1:Mod their raws and give them the [CHILD] tag
2: Tame them
3: before they revert, pit them in a room with nest boxes.
4: when the eggs hatch, take the new ones and train them.

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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2012, 08:18:08 am »

trained invader mounts will still be hostile to dwarves and if you kill them while they are trained not wild , it will cause loyalty cascade.

i guess the invader animals will kill their children before you can tame them , because of the bug that makes invader mounts kill their children.
« Last Edit: July 28, 2012, 08:30:06 am by brainfreez »
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2012, 09:59:08 am »

trained invader mounts will still be hostile to dwarves and if you kill them while they are trained not wild , it will cause loyalty cascade.

i guess the invader animals will kill their children before you can tame them , because of the bug that makes invader mounts kill their children.

Yeap, still gives xp to both of them(Strength and Endurance) just tested it w/ x5 the xp rate and fastdwarf 1 and some screw pumps on 3 different dwarfs.
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2012, 11:57:13 am »

Zeziba , i guess wrong post?
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Re: Taming War Dragons?
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2012, 12:29:43 pm »

If they're caged, though, you can sell 'em off for a cool 10000 dwarfbucks each. (no typo, that's ten thousand)

If your world is less than 500 years old they'll probably be too small to be worth butchering.
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Re: Taming War Dragons?
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2012, 01:23:11 pm »

i guess the invader animals will kill their children before you can tame them , because of the bug that makes invader mounts kill their children.
What you can do, though, is to impregnate them and then put them in a cage if they aren't egg-layers. Then you just un-assign the children from the cage without removing the parents, and you have a group of young animals that can be taken straight from enemy to 'domesticated' if you train them quick enough.
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2012, 04:41:05 pm »

Zeziba , i guess wrong post?

Yeap, was kinda tired after a all nighter...
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2012, 04:51:32 pm »

If they're caged, though, you can sell 'em off for a cool 10000 dwarfbucks each. (no typo, that's ten thousand)

If your world is less than 500 years old they'll probably be too small to be worth butchering.

I will have to disagree, at 250 years old they are giving me roughly a 120 meat 50 fat, with these alone, I am making cave dragon roasts worth 50,000 dwarf bucks.  Not to mention all the internal organs, bones, teeth, you get as well.  They are only worth selling whole if your too lazy to butcher them.  Only good war dragon is a war dragon with an apple in its mouth keeping your dwarves ecstatic for the next 30 years.
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2012, 05:52:41 pm »

If they're caged, though, you can sell 'em off for a cool 10000 dwarfbucks each. (no typo, that's ten thousand)

If your world is less than 500 years old they'll probably be too small to be worth butchering.

I will have to disagree, at 250 years old they are giving me roughly a 120 meat 50 fat, with these alone, I am making cave dragon roasts worth 50,000 dwarf bucks.  Not to mention all the internal organs, bones, teeth, you get as well.  They are only worth selling whole if your too lazy to butcher them.  Only good war dragon is a war dragon with an apple in its mouth keeping your dwarves ecstatic for the next 30 years.
Ah, okay. I didn't know how long they took to mature because I haven't yet tried cooking everything that my fortress manages to murder.
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