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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #795 on: January 16, 2015, 11:25:51 am »

Welcome to Joseph Campbell's Monomyth.

Really, the thing is everywhere, from Avatar, to the Bible, to Star Wars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth

The monomyth is nothing more than a bunch of generic barnum statements.

It's like if I said that all stories can ne reduced to the one story "something happens".
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #796 on: January 16, 2015, 11:29:15 am »

Welcome to Joseph Campbell's Monomyth.

Really, the thing is everywhere, from Avatar, to the Bible, to Star Wars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth

The monomyth is nothing more than a bunch of generic barnum statements.

It's like if I said that all stories can ne reduced to the one story "something happens".

"The Bohandas Theorem."
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #797 on: January 16, 2015, 04:05:04 pm »

Sometimes it feels as if attempts at structuring stories beyond TV Tropes levels (And even then) end up feeling very... shoehorned. Desperate, even, cos it implies there's one successful recipe to making a story. Reminds me of those "One mum working at home makes billions a second due to this one weird cosmetics trick that you can do too! Doctors hate her despite the fact that if they adapted it they would make even more money then her!" adverts.

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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #798 on: January 16, 2015, 11:41:37 pm »

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That I would like to see that. Avatar 2. The RDA comes back with a ship fitted with a MAC cannon. They shoot the darn tree, hopefully killing that traitor, end of the monomyth. Restart mining operations with even heavier military support. Perhaps even some government and heavier weapons support, now that the natives are proven threats to humanity. End of movie. I know it would be a really bad and short movie, but it would also be probably what would happen in real life.
Course IIRC they've got something like 14 more years before the first ship gets back to earth (during which point they've got to other ships that they have to drive off that are unaware of what they have done). Then probably at least another year before the governing body gets their asses in gear to support the operation. Then another 14 or so years before that ship gets back. That's at least another 30 years or so to come up with some sort of a counter method. (Or maybe even longer if some hippy groups here about the intended genocide of an alien life form. SAVE THE NOBLE SAVAGE NA'VI! STOP CONGRESSIONAL MURDER! :P) And if you consider that they are sitting on huge reservoirs of power producing materials and they have access to the networks of the original operation (which I wouldn't be surprised if they had blueprints for anything the company thought they needed), I wouldn't be too surprised if they were able to cobble together some sort of defense against that.
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #799 on: January 17, 2015, 03:51:11 am »

And then the Na'vi turn the tables and invade Earth.
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #800 on: January 17, 2015, 04:28:10 am »

Actually that one would be nice. Nazi Na'vi invading Earth, led by former-human-turned-insane-by-genetic-experiments.
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #801 on: January 17, 2015, 04:36:03 am »

A movie I'd like to see is an Arachnid colonization pod drop down onto Pandora.
The Arachnids being from Starship Troopers. Now that'd be amusing.
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #802 on: January 17, 2015, 05:31:27 am »

A movie I'd like to see is an Arachnid colonization pod drop down onto Pandora.
The Arachnids being from Starship Troopers. Now that'd be amusing.

A drop pod full of Altered yo.
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #803 on: January 17, 2015, 05:37:27 am »

If I wanted to see a curbstomp of that magnitude I'd airdrop the Thing into the jungle - it might give  them a chance to fight back :P
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #804 on: January 17, 2015, 06:15:22 am »

Tyrannids.

Harvest  all that tasty biomass.
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #805 on: January 17, 2015, 06:17:59 am »

Tyrannids.

Harvest  all that tasty biomass.

The Altered are Tyranids on steroids. Massive, massive doses of steroids.
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #806 on: January 17, 2015, 06:23:45 am »

What's the best alien from scifi to use as a bioweapon?
I would say a few xenomorph eggs, but they have a misfortunate effect of laying eggs in dark, rarely visited places that you can't find. A few of those dropped into Pandora would almost certainly wipe out most things on it, but would leave an unfortunate mess to clean up. If only there was some sort of fertility shutoff switch.

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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #807 on: January 17, 2015, 06:46:08 am »

Tribbles.

Massive population expansion collapses the ecosystem.
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #808 on: January 17, 2015, 06:49:57 am »

From widely published media I'd say John Carpenter's Thing as I said earlier, if only because it's so versatile; a single cell can start off a thing that'll eat the entire planet, and if it's dropped anywhere near sources of biomass it'll quickly spread out of control. A jungle would be a nightmare scenario if the Thing got into it. Tyranids might out eat it on most levels, but theyre more a mobile ecosystem - if you drop a basic Gaunt into a jungle it'll cause damage sure, but it'll die eventually and it won't really have a lasting effect. The Thing'll have assimilated the whole thing in a week tops.

From just pure forum stuff, the Altered from Einsteinian Roulette are like the Thing, but with a universal hivemind and bullshit physics-breaking powers.

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There's also the Flood from Halo now that I think about it, they're on about the same level as the Altered.
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #809 on: January 17, 2015, 06:55:46 am »

Thing is, in this scenario, we would need a bioweapon that kills everything then politely disperses into nothing. The Thing is effective, but it can go into stasis and god knows what it does with the biomass of a planet. Besides, it can reproduce asexually.
If only aliens couldn't lay their own eggs.
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