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[Neonivek]

Why do I suddenly feel like I've jumped into a Kingdom Hearts forum?

I don't know... Kingdom Hearts tends to say "Light" a lot more then it says "heart"

[Loud Whispers]

Would that mean... that... Disney was trying to say, originally, that people are inherantly good?

-That concepts of good and evil do not exist unless we make them so.

[Vattic]

I see what Neonivek is saying. It really sounds like they are trying to tarnish the original message behind those scenes. It also raises the question of why the animals don't try that with everyone in the search for food.

[DJ]

It is in fact SO torturous that when swimming you are sometimes advised not to physically help someone who is drowning, if they can save themselves, because people who are drowning will uncontrollably pull you down.

The way I heard it you're supposed to start the rescue with a full strength punch, to stun the drowning man a little so he doesn't take you down with him.

[Sergius]

Ok a kids movie (that turns out was a pilot for a show) made by disney called Princess Sophie.

I know this is for young children but one part enraged me for some reason.

Basically you know how in really old disney films the princesses seemingly charmed all the animals?

Well this movie/show wanted to explain how that worked so one of the animals who can speak to the princess main character says that the reason animals do that is... They are hungry and they wanted food.

NO DISNEY! NO! The reason the animals huddled around Snow White, Aurora, and Cinderella was not because they were hungry and wanted food, which they never got ANYWAY, it was because they were so pure of heart, such good people, that even animals saw their true nature became enthralled with them. You are NOT going to turn all those animals into food grubby creatures who only helped them because they THOUGHT they might get something out of it.

In a time when a character whos character major character trait is being a "good and virtuous person" is a bad thing and being pure of heart is akin to being an alien. I'd prefer my Pure Hearted characters to be untainted by these reimaginings. It is like everyone forgot what it means to try to be a good person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvmmVXIbYm8

[Loud Whispers]

Oh man, Miles Quaritch from Avatar. What a lad.

He tries to get the Naa'vi to let some engineers dig up some generic sci-fi minerals, peacefully. Three times. On the fourth after Jake Sully finishes being incompetent again he tries to get them to move non-violently, only ever using weapons that harm their tree home after the smurfs try killing them. Quaritch's move to blow up their Tree-God only happens after 2000 warriors show up at the border of the colony.
I don't see why this is supposed to be the BBEG. If he actually does show up in the sequel (somehow), happy days for humanity all round.

[Xantalos]

Oh man, Miles Quaritch from Avatar. What a lad.

He tries to get the Naa'vi to let some engineers dig up some generic sci-fi minerals, peacefully. Three times. On the fourth after Jake Sully finishes being incompetent again he tries to get them to move non-violently, only ever using weapons that harm their tree home after the smurfs try killing them. Quaritch's move to blow up their Tree-God only happens after 2000 warriors show up at the border of the colony.
I don't see why this is supposed to be the BBEG. If he actually does show up in the sequel (somehow), happy days for humanity all round.

He'll be cloned. I think on /tg/ he was designated a HERO OF THE IMPERIUM.

[FuzzyZergling]

Quaritch is an amazing dude.
When I watch the movie, I always think of him and his marines as the good guys.

[NobodyPro]

I want to see re-cut a version of the home tree scene that makes the marines look heroic.

[Neonivek]

I want to see re-cut a version of the home tree scene that makes the marines look heroic.

"The Tree has a gun and it is pointed at that school bus full of school children, Nuns, and Kittens!"

[Sheb]

The destruction of the death star was an inside job.

[Neonivek]

Ok here is one that isn't towards one movie but any movie that uses it as a plot point.

Diplomatic Immunity

I've never seen diplomatic immunity used correctly. It isn't immunity to the law but an immunity to the laws of the land.

[GlyphGryph]

Quaritch is an amazing dude.
When I watch the movie, I always think of him and his marines as the good guys.

This is actually the way basically everyone I know interprets the movie. I mean, come on - This guy runs out into poisonous atmosphere to try to take pistol pot shots at the bad guys. He pilots a construction mech to do battle against a hostile alien life form (just like in Aliens!). He's all around loyal, a dedicated bad-ass, and from all appearances an effective and well liked leader (by those not staging coups).

He's an antagonist, but it would be trivial for him to fill the role of protagonist just as easily, and most people I know were really rooting for him to win in that final battle.

[Xantalos]

Quaritch is an amazing dude.
When I watch the movie, I always think of him and his marines as the good guys.

This is actually the way basically everyone I know interprets the movie. I mean, come on - This guy runs out into poisonous atmosphere to try to take pistol pot shots at the bad guys. He pilots a construction mech to do battle against a hostile alien life form (just like in Aliens!). He's all around loyal, a dedicated bad-ass, and from all appearances an effective and well liked leader (by those not staging coups).

He's an antagonist, but it would be trivial for him to fill the role of protagonist just as easily, and most people I know were really rooting for him to win in that final battle.

And he's being cloned to come back. He's like a male Ripley.

[Sheb]

I just watched the last Games of Thrones episode, and what's with the super-soldier? You can't just walk into a supermarket and buy an army of übersoldiers that are super-loyal and don't feel pain.

and why are they selling tham? When you have an army of supersoldier, you just take the money, not trade it for...