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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #510 on: April 12, 2013, 04:18:30 pm »

Step #1  Collect fishing tackle and tools
if fishing tackle and or tools inaccessible/damaged
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Sporting goods store and or Home depot
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Step #2 Get into car
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Steal a car from the dozen used car lots down the street.
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Step #3  Steal solar panels from local advertising computerized billboards.
Step #4 Get to the library at city island (Small urbanized island in the middle of a seawater river)  Barricade library.
Step #5 Fish for food, use solar panels for electricity, play DF and Cataclysm on library computers.  Read library books to learn how to desalinate seawater.

I am aware that politicians do some REALLY stupid things... but would they really not do the proper epidemic procedures if they saw Small Pox in a hospital and had experts say it was?
A good portion of them might convince themselves that they caught it before it spread and that there is no need to shut the city down, no matter what experts tell them.  The kind of people in charge of such positions are often also the people that ignore anyone that dosn't agree with them.  (Not to say they all are, but there will be some)
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #511 on: April 12, 2013, 04:24:09 pm »

Read library books to learn how to desalinate seawater.
It's a pretty simple process actually. The basic idea is that you evaporate/boil the water and then condense it onto another surface where it falls into a collector. This can be done with something as simple as plastic wrap, a big and small bucket, and a rock or with much more complicated machinery, but that's the basic idea.
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #512 on: April 12, 2013, 04:36:17 pm »

That's more or less what I thought, and it's what I would try if I somehow couldn't reach the library. 

But bunkering up in the library gives me the resources to learn anything vital I might need to know that I don't know.  Like if odd looking puffer fish #4 I caught is poisonous, how to maintain a solar panel or make pipe rifles and stuff of that nature.

It's like the internet, only heavier and with fewer cat videos and porn.
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #513 on: April 12, 2013, 05:31:57 pm »

Yes the premise on how the pandemic even occurred drove me nuts.

Ok in New York they just saw someone die of Small pox in the hospital... They KNOW it is small pox, they have consultants that it is small pox, and they have no idea where it came from.

They have the option to shut down transportation to stop, or limit, the spread and they decide not to because "we don't know it is small pox"

Look Movie... I am not a doctor, I am not a scientist, I am even the guy who thought Small pox killed through infection (Boy was I wrong, only the least deadly small pox does that)... but even "I" can tell what small pox is. CLOSE THE STUPID TRANSPORT SYSTEM!

It ruined the entire movie because every second I go back to "If only New York didn't have idiots in charge"
Not Madagascar enough. Did they sanction a quarantine at least?

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« Reply #514 on: April 12, 2013, 07:13:40 pm »

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No. It wasn't until there was an uncontrollable widespread epidemic (because some dummy chose not to limit its spread by limiting transportation) that they decided to do anything.
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #515 on: April 14, 2013, 10:11:25 pm »

The Incredibles:

What happened to all the supervillains after the heroes were driven into retirement? The only reaswon the heroes were there in the FIRST PLACE was to stop the villains. And yet several years after the heroes depart, supervillains aren't exerting a tyrannical dictatorship over the city, there's no giant craters in buildings from the maniacs...what happened to them?
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« Reply #516 on: April 14, 2013, 10:19:16 pm »

I always went off the assumption that:
~ 90% of super villainy was in fact to try and get revenge on some super hero for some petty crime and it just escalated over some time from car jacking to wanting the destruction of the entire city. When the super heroes went away, the villains just didn't really care. It was never about running the city, it was about getting even with the privileged few who get to strut about calling themselves heroes when they were just fucking with people who had no other choice.
~ For the other 10% there was police forces and such to take care of it.

Neither of these two things were in any way indicated in the movie, they are just constructs of my mind to make the movie actually make more sense.

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« Reply #517 on: April 14, 2013, 10:44:59 pm »

Sounds good to me.  To my memory there's certainly only two supervillains[1] in the (contemporary) era of the Incredibles.  One is definitely such a revenge-monster.  As for the one that 'pops up' at the end...  Maybe (if the family weren't so immediately at hand) the National Guard would arrive to deal with him.

Arguably the Superhero Relocation Act (or whatever it was called) prevented the vigilantism[2] enough to reduce the loose cannons and loose cannonballs and let the Normal agencies and authorities deal with it all.  Repairing damage by the stray supervillains that didn't get immediately caught, rather than cleaning up after each and every superhero/supervillain ding-dong.

But it's been a while since I've seen the film, so ICVWBW. ;)


[1] Or not.  They both may take the Batman route to superpowers.  Use technology and machines.  (ICVWBW here, also.  Same caveat.)

[2] Spill-chucker, what?  "Vigilanteism"?  "Vigilante-ism"?  YKWIM.
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« Reply #518 on: April 23, 2013, 01:51:54 am »

So, I watched twelve monkeys... Hoo boy, I forgot just how crappy action movies from the 90s can get.
Anyway, the great big twist at the end is that the virus isn't spread by the army of the twelve monkeys, despite a clear motive being established, instead it is spread by some jerk named Dr. Peters. Except this is the first time Peters has any sort of plot relevance and there is no motivation given at all. None. It is not only a twist for the sake of loltwist, it makes the plot less coherent than if they had of just let the audience roll with what they had in mind.

Plotfuckery destroyed an already crappy movie just so we could have a slow motion scene in an airport. Welcome to the 90s!

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« Reply #519 on: April 23, 2013, 02:05:18 am »

Honestly the issues I have is that I feel like the people involved are MUUUCH less competent then they really should be.
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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #520 on: April 23, 2013, 04:45:14 am »

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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #521 on: April 23, 2013, 04:50:31 am »

Oh hey, those glasses are pretty cool Palazzo! Love the rose tints! Get them back in the 90s did you?

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« Reply #522 on: April 23, 2013, 06:55:52 am »

I haven't just watched Twelve Monkey, so I can't comment on characterisation, but I will do on the plot...

Spoiler: ...in this spoiler (click to show/hide)


[1] Where are those temporal verb forms I need...  Never mind.

[2] Although I am a fan of Quantum Leap.  Consider me inconsistent in this.  (Although I could argue all sides in the argument over whether Sam is nudging 'his' old history into 'ours', or whether he's been undoing the Evil Leaper meddlings from the start, etc...  Depends what mood I'm in and if I've seen a particular episode recently. ;) )
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« Reply #523 on: April 23, 2013, 07:01:07 am »

Don't worry, I've both read Homestuck and watched Dr. Who. I can do a stable time loop pretty easily.
What I'm annoyed about isn't the time loop, it is the fact that Peters motivation for wanting to destroy the human race was never explained. In fact they didn't even explain how Railly recognized Peters, as she spots him before Cole. Cole might have a chance of knowing him from seeing the same events in his childhood, but Railly wouldn't.

The time stuff is fine, I get that easily. But the end is actually full of plot holes.

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Re: Nitpicks that Ruined Movies
« Reply #524 on: April 23, 2013, 07:38:54 am »

Hope its not too late to post to watch this.
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