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[Tiruin]

king: bold the request for extend like Jim did. I think it's a rules thing.

• Extensions/Shortens -
  • Votes for extension/shorten are done in boldface. Extend, Extension, Extend it up yo, Shorten it out y'all are acceptable ways to vote for an extension/shorten.
  • Extensions/shortens can be opposed by declaring opposition, and they count against the total number of votes for an extension/shorten. Extensions count as opposition to shortens and vice versa.

Yes they are.

[Bookthras]

Book/PotL: Can we get a prod on Fluffy?

Prod sent. Requests for extensions noted. Kingfisher, for future reference, extension requests are only valid if bolded.

Two extension requests heard. Four are needed to extend the day 48 hours. Votecount will be posted later tonight or in the morning.

[kingfisher1112]

Extend

[Bookthras]

Battle is, indeed, the most magnificent competition in which these identities can indulge. It brings out all that is best and removes all that is base. They wallow in it, live for it, become one with it.

....they stop wallowing for a second, their phones are ringing.
Attention all Players, the votes currently
stand as follows

[Hapah] {0}:
[Deathsword] {1}: FluffyBinLaden
[Boltur] {0}:
[Mr. Dwarfinton] {1}: Boltur
[FluffyBinLaden] {2}: kingfisher1112, borno
[borno] {0}:
[kingfisher1112] {2}: Mr. Dwarfinton, Deathsword
[Dariush] {0}:   
[Jim Groovester] {0}:

Not voting {3}: Jim Groovester, Dariush, Hapah
Replacement queue {1}: Dustylou2

20:15 hours remain.
Day 1 will end Wednesday ~10:00PM CDT.
Current extension requests: two (Jim Groovester, kingfisher1112). Four requests needed to extend the day.
Prods sent to all players who haven't posted in 24+ hours. Please be active.

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[Dariush]

Dariush: What do you think about Fluffy, since he's using the exact same tactic that you advised Hapah not to do?

I think that he actually did two fuck-ups at once, by bandwagoning DS and doing so without a real question, so that's why he gets my vote. (Fluffy) I have no idea how I missed that post. That was a fuck-up on my part.

DS, you are accusing two people of being scum simultaneously early in D1. Why did you switch your vote from FBL to KF, especially considering that the former's actions are much more damning than the latter's (at least in my eyes)?

[Teneb]

First, extend.

Dariush: I switched my vote for two reasons: to ensure KF would answer the question and because I can't get any new data on FBL if he doesn't post.

KF: While I do not agree that there are good reasons to bandwagon (unless you are scum), at least you answered the question. So (unvote) my vote goes back FBL for now. However, you still said you were jumping on a bandwagon, despite your claims to hate it. If you hate bandwagons so much, why did you say you were joining one on FBL?

[Boltur]

Argh sorry for inactivity i got had more work than i hoped for few days.

Extend while i reread and make a post with some content

[Bookthras]

Four extension requests heard. Day has been extended 48 hours.

Day 1 will end Friday ~10:00PM CDT.

[Boltur]

Alright things that are still unclear or bother me in some way:

Borno: You seem to have no real mixed opinion on fluffy and while voting him you never adress him directly:

I am voting for him because of Fluffy's pressure vote, and to put on a little pressure myself.
...
What do you think about Fluffy, since he's using the exact same tactic that you advised Hapah not to do?

Here you say it was pressure vote and you made it clear you realize it was without a question yet this is not enough to make you vote for him or even question him.

Hapah: Now that I've gone through the posts, I guess I suspect FBL, for voting Deathsword in what initially seemed like a pressure vote and then absolutely disappearing.

And yet suddenly using the exact same facts you vote for him ? What happened that made you change your mind ? And why are you so reculant to state your own opinion on him instead quoting someone else ?

Mr.Dwarfinton:

How am I defending him? I simply asked what the point of the question was, he replied, I replied that I read it in a way that made me question the question.

I belive attacking someone who accuses your buddy is called chainsawing. And being passive-agressive while doing it is still scummy.

Unvote
kingfisher:

My vote still stands. FBL is certainly suspicious, and you seem just like a really good Town player. Or an even better mafia.

What's the meaning of the second sentence here ? How DS feeling like town to you influences FBL scumminess ? And buddying up is pretty suspicious tactic here i think. And i have a feeling you like to ignore my questions so i guess the vote should fix that.

Deathsword:

Dariush: I switched my vote for two reasons: to ensure KF would answer the question and because I can't get any new data on FBL if he doesn't post.
...
So (unvote) my vote goes back FBL for now.

Why are you swapping it back now then ? You still question KF and FBL still made no post.

[Teneb]

Deathsword:

Dariush: I switched my vote for two reasons: to ensure KF would answer the question and because I can't get any new data on FBL if he doesn't post.
...
So (unvote) my vote goes back FBL for now.

Why are you swapping it back now then ? You still question KF and FBL still made no post.

Because I believe that there is still more to be learned about all this. FBL's two posts have been the scummiest I've seen in my two games, but something about KF doesn't feel right. Aside from the inconsistencies in his arguments, of course. FoSed here to make it obvious that, despite the vote switch, he still has my suspicions. The extend should help, I hope.

Should have some more questions later when I've got some more time to think.

[Jim Groovester]

FluffyBinLaden, I think it's time you made a reappearance.

Because I believe that there is still more to be learned about all this. FBL's two posts have been the scummiest I've seen in my two games, but something about KF doesn't feel right. Aside from the inconsistencies in his arguments, of course. FoSed here to make it obvious that, despite the vote switch, he still has my suspicions. The extend should help, I hope.

Should have some more questions later when I've got some more time to think.

What inconsistencies are these?

[Mr. Dwarfinton]

I didn't attack you. I asked you a question because I read a sentence a certain way.

I'm still a bit busy and I can't write a long post. I know I said I'd get a longer one in today, so sorry about not being able to do so. Hopefully I will be able to do stuff that doesn't just include popping in once a day to reply to a question.

[Teneb]

Because I believe that there is still more to be learned about all this. FBL's two posts have been the scummiest I've seen in my two games, but something about KF doesn't feel right. Aside from the inconsistencies in his arguments, of course. FoSed here to make it obvious that, despite the vote switch, he still has my suspicions. The extend should help, I hope.

Should have some more questions later when I've got some more time to think.

What inconsistencies are these?

As stated in my posts, he keeps saying how he hates bandwagons, yet he said more than once he'd join one "if the reasons are good enough". He even said he was bandwagonning FBL.

[borno]

Boltur:

Borno: You seem to have no real mixed opinion on fluffy and while voting him you never adress him directly:

I am voting for him because of Fluffy's pressure vote, and to put on a little pressure myself.
...
What do you think about Fluffy, since he's using the exact same tactic that you advised Hapah not to do?

Here you say it was pressure vote and you made it clear you realize it was without a question yet this is not enough to make you vote for him or even question him.

Hapah: Now that I've gone through the posts, I guess I suspect FBL, for voting Deathsword in what initially seemed like a pressure vote and then absolutely disappearing.

And yet suddenly using the exact same facts you vote for him ? What happened that made you change your mind ? And why are you so reculant to state your own opinion on him instead quoting someone else ?

I have stated my opinion; He voted on DS with what I initially thought was just a pressure vote, but then he never took it off, making me think that it was a reasonless bandwagon.

DS: You seem to be changing your votes around a lot. If you think that FBL is scum, why do you keep changing your vote to other people?

[Hapah]

DS: So bandwagons are never acceptable? What if the evidence suggested is very compelling? I see that statement by KF being more honest than scummy.