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Author Topic: Steam, Achievements, and actually playing the games you buy  (Read 6175 times)

Mephisto

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Re: Steam, Achievements, and actually playing the games you buy
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2012, 11:01:33 am »

I think I'm just weird. If I buy something that isn't in a series, I feel that I have to play it right away. It was like that when I rented games, too. I would play the rented game to death until I had to return it.

I still need to work on my Jedi Knight bundle. I still haven't beaten the first game, so I guess I don't have much room to talk.
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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2012, 11:08:42 am »

I also have purchased Steam games in sales (even last years summer sale) that I have yet to touch. I was just thinking to myself that I should stop visiting game sites because I have no reason to buy new games when I have forty games left untouched.
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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2012, 11:10:21 am »

I've pretty much stopped buying games that I'm not absolutely positive I will play through for this reason. Your suspicions are entirely correct.
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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2012, 11:37:54 am »

I've done the test on this, I haven't played more than 50% of my games. Of those there's a good half that I've actually played but Steam doesn't know it (either because I played it a long time ago before the stat system or because I've played it somewhere else and then registered on Steam eg Humble bundles). So let's say approximately 1/4th (out of 180) of games on my steam account that I've never ever played. A good number of these, I got from bundles/packs I bought before I was interested in other games of the pack. Finally, I've got more than a few games that I bought (in sales), was legitimetely interested in, still fully intend to play, but never got around to do it for various reasons (lack of time, "not feeling like it right now"...)
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Re: Steam, Achievements, and actually playing the games you buy
« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2012, 11:47:08 am »

I buy a lot of games that I at one time or another pirated. So I'll often buy them planning to play them one day....but for the most part they sit unplayed in my Steam list.
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Re: Steam, Achievements, and actually playing the games you buy
« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2012, 11:49:39 am »

I've done the test on this, I haven't played more than 50% of my games. Of those there's a good half that I've actually played but Steam doesn't know it (either because I played it a long time ago before the stat system or because I've played it somewhere else and then registered on Steam eg Humble bundles). So let's say approximately 1/4th (out of 180) of games on my steam account that I've never ever played. A good number of these, I got from bundles/packs I bought before I was interested in other games of the pack. Finally, I've got more than a few games that I bought (in sales), was legitimetely interested in, still fully intend to play, but never got around to do it for various reasons (lack of time, "not feeling like it right now"...)

Neat link.  According to http://lambentstew.com/webblog/miniproject/steamanalysis?steamid=_Levi I've played 76% of my games, although there have been quite a few that I've only played a short while and then tossed in my "Terrible" category.   :P  A few that I played a little bit and tossed back into my queue, as I wasn't quite in the mood for as well.

Also you can see that I used to REALLY enjoy TF2, haha.

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« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2012, 11:52:30 am »

I bought a steam bundle, have no intentions of playing half the games there.  Does that count?
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« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2012, 11:59:59 am »

I've done the test on this, I haven't played more than 50% of my games. ...

That is a neat link.

It reports me as 63% played; however, going over its list of 0 hour games, it includes a lot of DLC and a couple of duplicates. Taking those out I get closer to 87%, which is about where I expected, given that I just got a bunch of games from the Summer Sale that haven't even been installed yet.

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« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2012, 01:18:26 pm »

I despise achievements, especially the ones that are "play the first unavoidable part of the game that takes 5 or less minutes to complete." By definition you aren't achieving anything: "to gain as by hard work or effort."
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« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2012, 01:38:10 pm »

I despise achievements, especially the ones that are "play the first unavoidable part of the game that takes 5 or less minutes to complete." By definition you aren't achieving anything: "to gain as by hard work or effort."

Yeah progress-based achievements are the second-lowest form of achievements on the Levi cheevo scale (trademark pending).  The worst kind is when you get an achievement for failing. 

I like achievements in general but I'd rather they all be for more interesting things, like jumping off a building and killing three people before you land or discovering a hard to find location.
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« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2012, 01:41:39 pm »

I feel that some of the "pointless achievements" comes from the padding mindset instilled by XBOX 360's giant achievement lists for every game. You'd have something downloadable like a match 3 game and 10 achievements for things you're going to do in 10 minutes of playing. It's almost like X360 games were required to include achievements.

I may be talking out my ass here, but that's where I first saw this phenomenon.
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« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2012, 01:51:38 pm »

I feel that some of the "pointless achievements" comes from the padding mindset instilled by XBOX 360's giant achievement lists for every game. You'd have something downloadable like a match 3 game and 10 achievements for things you're going to do in 10 minutes of playing. It's almost like X360 games were required to include achievements.

I may be talking out my ass here, but that's where I first saw this phenomenon.

I think there is some truth to what you say. I remember Borderlands had an achievement for killing 100 of each enemy... and 500 of each enemy, and 1000 of each enemy, blah blah blah. Just achievement bloat.

I don't dislike progression achievements. It is interesting to see what percentage of people who bought a game, beat it, but the best achievements are the ones you get for doing something interesting or lucky.

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« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2012, 02:16:33 pm »

Bundles are another factor. Often times its just 2 or three games in the bundle you want, but it comes with 10 or so games you never intend on playing, but for whatver reason the bundle at the time was cheaper. An example being the time the Paradox complete pack was only $100, and I only wanted it for the core paradox games, and not the crapton of 3rd party games they published that came with it.

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« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2012, 10:26:33 pm »

I think most of the missing achievements might come from the demos:
You donīt get achievements there and most of the time you can use your demo save-game to continue in the full version.
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Re: Steam, Achievements, and actually playing the games you buy
« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2012, 10:31:56 pm »

Bundles are another factor. Often times its just 2 or three games in the bundle you want, but it comes with 10 or so games you never intend on playing, but for whatver reason the bundle at the time was cheaper. An example being the time the Paradox complete pack was only $100, and I only wanted it for the core paradox games, and not the crapton of 3rd party games they published that came with it.
Yeah, this is usually how it is for me. I have most of the indie bundles but I barely play a lot of the games in them. It just so happened at the time that the price of the bundle was cheaper than the one or two games I actually wanted.

The Sega and Bethseda packs as well.  Things like that.

Edit: Heh, that test website counts some strange things inside. If you look at mine for example it includes DLC even though you can't actually play them by themselves.
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