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[Sutremaine]

Heh. Can I sig that?

[Loud Whispers]

If you want to sure

[Pyro627]

By the way, what the heck is going on in that last panel? How did those dwarves get set off like that?

One of the Dwarves must've not liked the cramped conditions and attacked another Dwarf. Apparently at some point while this was happening, a loyalty cascade occurred. I locked the brass doors to see what happened next, then once the water lever had lowered the necromancer decided now was a good time to start raising Dwarf corpses.

Generally, when one is conducting an experiment, it is worth noting that the observers went insane, killed each other, and then rose from the dead.

Edit: It seems that the necromancer in question is loose.

[Hurize]

By the way, what the heck is going on in that last panel? How did those dwarves get set off like that?

One of the Dwarves must've not liked the cramped conditions and attacked another Dwarf. Apparently at some point while this was happening, a loyalty cascade occurred. I locked the brass doors to see what happened next, then once the water lever had lowered the necromancer decided now was a good time to start raising Dwarf corpses.

Generally, when one is conducting an experiment, it is worth noting that the observers went insane, killed each other, and then rose from the dead.

NECRO ALERT l NECRO ALERT

[Loud Whispers]

NECRO ALERT l NECRO ALERT

Necromancer? Quick! Get the pigs!

[darkrider2]

Alert the emergency responders! A necromancer tower fell over on the thread!

[WealthyRadish]

Well, it's only a month... the thread probably just went into a diabetic coma.

[Loud Whispers]

Too much delicious undead bacon to handle in a day, couldn't have been good for the thread

[GoombaGeek]

I want to do this, but I'm unsure of the specifics. Is drowning needed? Because I think I know how you could do this without tons of water.
1. Long drop onto your fortress' finest spikes, preferably bronze, iron, steel, or *gasp* adamantine. Kill your livestock instantly.
2. Pull a lever to lower the spikes, and let the necromancer see the animals. Let him reanimate them.
3. Pull it again to raise the spikes, re-killing the animals and blocking the necro.

Questions:
- Is drowning required so the animals are uninjured? If so, disregard everything I said :I
- You could remove the spikes and raise the drop to reduce overall injury, but that makes killing the zombies hard again, right?
- Can necromancers see through solid glass walls? Nobody agrees on this. (Or, a fortification in front of a window would work better)

[Loud Whispers]

Questions:
- Is drowning required so the animals are uninjured? If so, disregard everything I said :I

Yah, unless the animal is a grazer and can be starved to death.

- You could remove the spikes and raise the drop to reduce overall injury, but that makes killing the zombies hard again, right?

???
I just send in Marksdwarves/Mace/Hammer Dwarves to do the killing.

- Can necromancers see through solid glass walls?

Noot

[GoombaGeek]

Military deployment = too much work

[Emily]

Can zombies be caught in cage traps? And can you butcher them from the cage traps? (...that would require being tame though and I assume the renamation detames them.)

I think spike traps may be a better idea just on the grounds of they can also kill the zombies.

[darkgloomie]

Military deployment = too much work

well, upright traps to kill the undead after drowning could work, I think?

[GoombaGeek]

Military deployment = too much work

well, upright traps to kill the undead after drowning could work, I think?

Exactly, and you don't even need to time anything, because you can have it on the same lever.

The only problem is if the spikes cause severed limbs - from Adventure Mode tests, a dead vulture and a mutilated dead vulture both gave 9 vulture meat, showing that if there is a loss when butchering mutilated corpses, it isn't that significant.

[Urist Da Vinci]

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The only problem is if the spikes cause severed limbs - from Adventure Mode tests, a dead vulture and a mutilated dead vulture both gave 9 vulture meat, showing that if there is a loss when butchering mutilated corpses, it isn't that significant.

The game actually keeps track of which body parts were severed and how much meat was on each, and it's all based on relative body part sizes. Body parts don't count until they pass a size threshold, and only add up integer amounts. A vulture is size 9000, whereas a water buffalo is size 1000000.

Details here: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=78108.msg2012244#msg2012244

Since it takes longer to butcher several dead pieces, I'd suggest keeping the body intact.