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[Bingbing]

So I go back to playing DF once again, download the newest version, and generate what turns out to be a dwarven hell.

Gomaththur. Translated to "The Legendary Universe". Well, it's certainly legendary.

For starters, goblin fortresses are abundant. Forgotten beasts lie everywhere. The beasts of myth and legend (dragons, hydra, rocs, and bronze colossi) are all extinct.

There is only one major night creature left; Kulur Ujarushan Muthrosor (translated Kulur Ujarushan the Dead Funeral). Kulur is a shadow troll; a twisted mockery of a troll (which is already saying a LOT) that has three tails and skin covered in black scales. She is best described as the mortal enemy of the entire world, and has killed members of all 4 major sentient species.

There is a human settlement, Puzzlehenges, that is basically a horrible place to live. The government in charge, the League of Thorns, has fought wars against goblin and dwarven kind, was invaded by night terrors often, and has managed to somehow take prisoner a lizard brute.  The  League of Thorns has managed to capture alive a DEMON.

That demon is the very last one still alive on the surface. The humans are PROTECTING IT.

Wars have scoured this world, which is saying a lot when it's only small-sized. Every species has gone to war with every other species multiple times. In a glorious reversal of how such fights tend to go, a goblin force of over 600 goblins attacked an elven settlement, only to be cut down to size (over 66% fatality rate) by THREE ELVES.

This would not bother me, was it not for the worst detail of all.

There is not a single flux stone in the entire world. I could not make this up if I tried. Steel, the tried and true metal of dwarven kind, does not exist.

[Loud Whispers]

That demon is the very last one still alive on the surface. The humans are PROTECTING IT.

Sounds like a deposed lawgiver demon. They're just looking for a way to kill it.

Sounds like home really.

[xoseph]

Nice.

But to be truly hellish, there'd have to be nothing left but elves.

[Kylarus]

Given another 100 years or so, the elves may very well have overpopulated and outpopulated the goblins into extinction.

[terko]

I like that, it's sigged!

[raptorfangamer]

a goblin force of over 600 goblins attacked an elven settlement, only to be cut down to size (over 66% fatality rate) by THREE ELVES.

sounds like those goblins were not above the average mook.

[Besserwisser]

There is not a single flux stone in the entire world. I could not make this up if I tried. Steel, the tried and true metal of dwarven kind, does not exist.

Are you sure you haven't set mineral scarcity to everywhere and the searcher malfunctions?

[Mimodo]

There is not a single flux stone in the entire world. I could not make this up if I tried. Steel, the tried and true metal of dwarven kind, does not exist.

Are you sure you haven't set mineral scarcity to everywhere and the searcher malfunctions?

happened to me... was so dissapointed about not having flux, started without it, then dug down into marble

[misko27]

There is not a single flux stone in the entire world. I could not make this up if I tried. Steel, the tried and true metal of dwarven kind, does not exist.

Are you sure you haven't set mineral scarcity to everywhere and the searcher malfunctions?

happened to me... was so dissapointed about not having flux, started without it, then dug down into marble

Happened to me too! I'm drowning in flux, half my buildings are of it. dolomite, marble, you name it. But when I was searching: "uh, no flux here, no sirre. What is this Flux you speak of?"

[weenog]

There is not a single flux stone in the entire world. I could not make this up if I tried. Steel, the tried and true metal of dwarven kind, does not exist.

Are you a man, or are you a dwarf?  Flouting the rules of physics and chemistry are part of the dwarves' essential nature.  Steel exists, and in plentiful supply, you just need to get to work and be tricky about it.

Your civilization should know how to make steel.  That means you can import it from them.  It doesn't matter if they have the ingredients, only if they know the reaction.  Screw good metallurgy practices.

So you can get a few bars every year, that's not enough to work with, right?  Wrong.  Dwarf forge and smelter pseudoscience is so advanced that they can make chain leggings with one bar of steel, melt them back down, and wind up with a bar and a half of steel.  Not that you can do much with half a bar, but the next time you run the reaction the smelter will spit two bars back out.

You'll have to keep your forge and smelter running round the clock to bulk up those steel supplies.  If you do it with charcoal, you'll kill all the trees, which is of course hilarious.  But you're still hungry for more steel, aren't you?  If you're a dwarf, I don't need to tell you this, but I will anyway: Dig deeper.  Magma is the answer.

[nerdyboy321123]

There is not a single flux stone in the entire world. I could not make this up if I tried. Steel, the tried and true metal of dwarven kind, does not exist.

So you can get a few bars every year, that's not enough to work with, right?  Wrong.  Dwarf forge and smelter pseudoscience is so advanced that they can make chain leggings with one bar of steel, melt them back down, and wind up with a bar and a half of steel.  Not that you can do much with half a bar, but the next time you run the reaction the smelter will spit two bars back out.

Dear armok, is this true??? I hope it is, not for exploity/infinite-metal purposes, but just for ease of armorsmith training. And was this true in .31.25?

[parlor_tricks]

Those elves must have some absurd strength levels now, what with all those kills.

Pity you can't recruit my of them for adventure mode.  Afaik, since there are no cities for elves any more, you can't recruit them.

[Kilroy the Grand]

Those elves must have some absurd strength levels now, what with all those kills.

Pity you can't recruit my of them for adventure mode.  Afaik, since there are no cities for elves any more, you can't recruit them.

you don't make all races gen with towns? srsly?

[weenog]

There is not a single flux stone in the entire world. I could not make this up if I tried. Steel, the tried and true metal of dwarven kind, does not exist.

So you can get a few bars every year, that's not enough to work with, right?  Wrong.  Dwarf forge and smelter pseudoscience is so advanced that they can make chain leggings with one bar of steel, melt them back down, and wind up with a bar and a half of steel.  Not that you can do much with half a bar, but the next time you run the reaction the smelter will spit two bars back out.

Dear armok, is this true??? I hope it is, not for exploity/infinite-metal purposes, but just for ease of armorsmith training. And was this true in .31.25?

I don't know if it was true in .31.25, but it's true now.  There's a bug report on it.  I've only personally tested axes though, I was more concerned with getting a legendary weaponsmith and was willing to endure the slower return rate to get it.

[Helgoland]

There is not a single flux stone in the entire world. I could not make this up if I tried. Steel, the tried and true metal of dwarven kind, does not exist.

So you can get a few bars every year, that's not enough to work with, right?  Wrong.  Dwarf forge and smelter pseudoscience is so advanced that they can make chain leggings with one bar of steel, melt them back down, and wind up with a bar and a half of steel.  Not that you can do much with half a bar, but the next time you run the reaction the smelter will spit two bars back out.

Dear armok, is this true??? I hope it is, not for exploity/infinite-metal purposes, but just for ease of armorsmith training. And was this true in .31.25?

I don't know if it was true in .31.25, but it's true now.  There's a bug report on it.  I've only personally tested axes though, I was more concerned with getting a legendary weaponsmith and was willing to endure the slower return rate to get it.

For armorsmith training, leggings are great, and for weaponsmiths battle axes are good - both give 3/2 bars when smelted. For metal multiplication, you want coins - look on the wiki page for exploits under Adamantine factory or something like that.