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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #9375 on: December 07, 2023, 10:48:56 am »

Hmm, yea, some places in Ireland for sure.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #9376 on: December 08, 2023, 05:54:39 am »

In the British English section it renders ending with /-dɪ/ as the primary one.

This is pronounced sorta like "yesterdee" right? I'm not super good with phonetics.

But yes I can even think of saying that without breaking out into my terrible Hollywood "irish"/"shkottish" accent
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #9377 on: December 08, 2023, 01:46:03 pm »

I'm needing help with some of my university work here.

I'm trying to find an appropriate t-test for my data, and I've spent 5 hours slamming my head against a wall trying to get it to work and failing. Not a consecutive 5 hours either, this is me going away, coming back with some hilarious misplaced optimism and a fresh new outlook, then ending a frustrated, stressed out mess every fucking time.

The data's on stick insects. We've got 20 results from 20 stick insects under two different circumstances: The absence of wind, and the presence of wind. The data we got is the number of seconds spent swaying over 10 minutes. These were the same stick insects in both circumstances (eg group 1 did stick insect A with no wind, gets 5 seconds. The same group then used a cold hair dryer to blow air over the same stick insect, resulting in 20 seconds. Repeat over another 19 groups)

The data's not normally distributed, I did a test and pulled up a histogram both confirming it.

I'm lead to believe I either need to do a Kruskal-Wallis test, or a Wilcoxon signed/paired rank test.

First question, am I right and if so which do I use?

Second question, how the actual FUCK do I do these tests (Mine or the new one) in RStudio? The K-W test produced different results if I compared NoWind to Wind or Wind to NoWind, which seems fucking weird to me - I'm comparing the exact same values in reverse order, why would I get wildly different chi squared, DF and P-values?

As for the Wilcoxon test, I just don't know how to input that. I've followed 5 different tutorials and every one shows something slightly different and every one throws out an error.

EDIT: I might have this worked out, if I'm back on the forums screaming at everyone tomorrow you'll know I didn't.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #9378 on: December 10, 2023, 07:39:35 am »

EDIT: I might have this worked out, if I'm back on the forums screaming at everyone tomorrow you'll know I didn't.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #9379 on: December 10, 2023, 08:24:02 am »

there is a ten hour loop of that bug on youtube
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #9380 on: December 12, 2023, 02:05:17 am »

That bug has some funky dance moves.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #9381 on: December 12, 2023, 05:19:58 am »

Can someone explain in clear terms the difference between synecdoche and metonymy? I'm reading the definitions and can't tell the difference. One is supposed to be a subset of the other. But what is the essential difference? When is a metonymy not a synecdoche?
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #9382 on: December 12, 2023, 07:23:26 am »

Metonymie designates some thing by something else, synecdoche too but the first is part of the latter.

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I sense some vague basedness of the part of linguists... Lending a hand would be a synecdoche, but ruling with an iron fist would be a metonymie... I think. This is probably an amount of nuance nobody ever needed.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #9383 on: December 12, 2023, 02:01:22 pm »

A synecdoche is a kind of metonym

So metonym denotes the generic kind of way we use things to refer to other things. Synecdoche refers to when a part of something is used to signify the whole or vice versa.

"Six thousand spears. Less than half of what I'd hoped for," - King Theoden.
So this one is both a metonym but not a synecdoche, because the spears signify the cavalry units who wield these spears. Unless you want to get philosophical and say the spears are a part of the riders of Rohan... Which culturally, may be true.

"Gondor calls for aid." - Aragorn
"And Rohan will answer." - Theoden
An example of a synecdoche where a more comprehensive thing is used to signify a lesser part of the thing. Or vice versa.

"Excuse me? I have a sword. Please accept it. I offer you my service, Theoden King," - Merry
"And gladly, I accept it. You shall be Meriadoc, Esquire of Rohan," - Theoden
Merry's usage of "sword" to mean his service is an example of a metonym that is not a synecdoche. His sword is associated with service, he is not literally giving Theoden his sword, but instead using it to mean his service as the sword is associated with knighthood.

"Take up my seat in the Golden Hall. Long may you defend Edoras if the battle goes ill." - Theoden to Eowyn.
Here Theoden uses two synecdoches, that use smaller parts to refer to greater wholes. Theoden's seat is his throne, and both his seat and the Golden Hall are the symbols of his royal power. So by using these metonyms he is asking Eowyn to succeed him if he dies in battle.

Basically King Theoden is good at speeches

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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #9384 on: December 12, 2023, 02:23:17 pm »

Thanks. Excellent.
So, it's that >part< of a thing that's crucial for synecdoche.

'You have my sword' is not a synecdoche.
'My blade is at your service' would count as one. Right?

Also, the word is called a metonym, while metonymy is the use of such in an expression. Is this correct?
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #9385 on: December 12, 2023, 03:05:29 pm »

Thanks. Excellent.
So, it's that >part< of a thing that's crucial for synecdoche.
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also sometimes it's the reverse, where you refer to a whole to actually mean a part of it. E.g. Winston Churchill's we shall fight them on the beaches quote "Until, in God's good time, The New World, with all it's power and might, steps forth to the rescue and the liberation of the Old."
So this one is also a synecdoche because the new world (USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand) is referred to by the whole of its parts, as is Europe & Asia (the old world)

'You have my sword' is not a synecdoche.
'My blade is at your service' would count as one. Right?
Probably not, unless you want to get philosophical about the nature of a swordsman and their sword being one, wuxia style

Also, the word is called a metonym, while metonymy is the use of such in an expression. Is this correct?
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #9386 on: December 13, 2023, 05:25:18 am »

'You have my sword' is not a synecdoche.
'My blade is at your service' would count as one. Right?
Probably not, unless you want to get philosophical about the nature of a swordsman and their sword being one, wuxia style
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I meant it like the blade is a part of a sword (which then refers to an oath like in the first sentence), but maybe that's not metaphorical enough. I gotta think about this some more. But thanks again - very helpful indeed.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #9387 on: December 22, 2023, 01:24:22 am »

my hair, fairly long, keeps getting quite tangled — I assume from putting it up in a ponytail relatively often
how do I prevent this?
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #9388 on: December 25, 2023, 12:09:49 am »

my hair, fairly long, keeps getting quite tangled — I assume from putting it up in a ponytail relatively often
how do I prevent this?

Cut it.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #9389 on: December 25, 2023, 03:30:47 am »

my hair, fairly long, keeps getting quite tangled — I assume from putting it up in a ponytail relatively often
how do I prevent this?

If you don't brush it, buy a brush and brush it.

If you do brush it, maybe add an application an rinse-out of hair conditioner after washing it?

I've seen people say both that you're supposed to tie it up and that you're supposed to leave it loose before going to bed to prevent tangling and I don't know which is true.
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