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[Egan_BW]

no, but you are the reason why we can't have nice things <3

[TheSteppeWolf]

no, but you are the reason why we can't have nice things <3

Communists tried to destroy my country's culture though. I don't want that to happen again. :/

[wierd]

The problem is not communism.  The problem is human nature.


It goes against human nature to remove all practical ownership. Thus, to ensure that communism works*, an enforcer class has to be created. The creation of the enforcer class creates rulers and those ruled, which is exactly what communism was meant to prevent and replace.


Communism works. There are many successful true-communal species on the planet.  The problem, is that humans cannot handle communism.

[Laterigrade]

The problem is not communism.  The problem is human nature.


It goes against human nature to remove all practical ownership. Thus, to ensure that communism works*, an enforcer class has to be created. The creation of the enforcer class creates rulers and those ruled, which is exactly what communism was meant to prevent and replace.


Communism works. There are many successful true-communal species on the planet.  The problem, is that humans cannot handle communism.

This. Also, even if your ‘enforcer class’ is benevolent, it will only stay so for so long, because rulers will have to change (leaving aside the possibility of immortality) and moreover power corrupts.

[scriver]

no, but you are the reason why we can't have nice things <3

Communists tried to destroy my country's culture though. I don't want that to happen again. :/

Russian or Chinese? Or is this a que no los dos situation?

[TheSteppeWolf]

no, but you are the reason why we can't have nice things <3

Communists tried to destroy my country's culture though. I don't want that to happen again. :/

Russian or Chinese? Or is this a que no los dos situation?

Our own, albeit with heavy Russian influence.

[MaxTheFox]

What do you all think of me? Am I annoying?

[Egan_BW]

nope

[scriver]

Not in the least

[Naturegirl1999]

No, you’re not annoying

Re: Communism
Are eusocial insects examples of communism in other species?

[MaxTheFox]

No, you’re not annoying

Re: Communism
Are eusocial insects examples of communism in other species?

Somewhere in-between that and a hive mind, I'd say. They're not a true hive mind because every ant (for example) can think by itself, but it's not true communism because they're not all equals. I do wonder what a fully sentient eusocial species would be like.

Is it weird that I wouldn't want to live in a communist/anarchist "utopia" with no hierarchy and communal ownership?

I mean, same, but mostly because such a society would, for humans, quickly turn into a dictatorship.

[Reelya]

No, you’re not annoying

Re: Communism
Are eusocial insects examples of communism in other species?

Not really. The point of communism isn't to make a hive society where the only thing that matters is propagating more hives, which is what eusocial insects are all about. Ants for example are a terrible model for communism: the only thing that matters is feeding the queen ant, and everyone is slave-children of the queen either gathering more food or tending the queens future children. That's nothing like any human society, so trying to draw any conclusions from that is wrong.

[wierd]

meerkat is a better model.  Many families in a communal warren. Duties for foraging and danger spotting are dynamically allocated, and shared between all colony members.

[scriver]

But meerkats are notoriously genocidal

[Yoink]

Perfect!