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[McTraveller]

A movie about nine.

[scriver]

There was one but it wasn't actually about nines

[King Zultan]

I remember that movie it was about a little guy and some other little guys fighting a big thing in the apocalypse.

[Great Order]

Is it normal after doing padwork in boxing gloves to struggle to open your hand fully the next day? nothing hurts, it's just *hard*. Like when you've overexercised.

[delphonso]

Is it normal after doing padwork in boxing gloves to struggle to open your hand fully the next day? nothing hurts, it's just *hard*. Like when you've overexercised.

Probably exhausted forearm muscles. Putting your hands in the namaste position can help stretch out the muscles there. Might not do anything, but should feel nice.

[TD1]

I'm rewatching Doctor Who (starting with Eccleston). I haven't watched anything post-Capaldi because the plot was becoming more concerned with forming discursive, politically correct moulds than any meaningful characterisation.

I just finished rewatching Tenant's era. I'd forgotten how emotive, how powerful the final performance was. The man who runs, standing and dying. 'I don't want to go.'

So, my post has a dual purpose. Firstly, to express my love for Dr. Who as it existed during my childhood and teenage years; age has not withered it, nor custom staled its infinite variety.

Secondly, to ask whether I should bother getting into the newer seasons. The story was limping, but perhaps it's healed?

[Loud Whispers]

idk why you would get into the newer stuff, if you've been spoiled by Ecclestone and Tenant. Those two doctors managed to get that perfect combination between alluding to deep traumatic lore and having fun! and of course, saving everyone (including bits of character development where the doctor is conflicted between his desire to save everyone and not everyone falling under that "everyone" umbrella like the daleks). There was also enough ambiguity around the doctor themself to just make the character really cool and mysterious that you start to lose when you start getting later doctors getting put under the microscope, right down to details of their childhood on Galifrey. The supporting cast between doc 9 and doc 10 was also imo the best of the best. Donna Noble will always be MVP OI SPACE MAN but the likes of the Master and Jack Harkness et al. will always be burned in the memory

I found with the later seasons you do occasionally get some absolutely fucking awesome gems like "Heaven Sent" but then a lot of the newer eps seem aimed for a newer audience, as a lot of the plots are just reused scripts of previous eps. Show was still decent and watchable but that only gets you so far, especially when you recycle plots from previous seasons you're inevitably going to invite comparisons that'll be hard to live up to.
I think every Doctor Who fan has their own opinion on what went wrong, who is to blame (if anyone) and what could be done to fix it. But I think there are some things which aren't exactly controversial here;

-Don't wank off the doctor every episode. It's all right to have an episode every now and then where you can get away with portraying the doctor as the weird alien time traveling entity that is truly dangerous, but not every episode has to be "A good man goes to war." The character is called the doctor for a reason. Focusing on how good they are at being an omnicidal warlord is... More in the spirit of the master than the doctor. There should not be a grand celebration or comedic reference to how many people the doctor has killed too often otherwise it undermines the whole shame of the "you would make a good dalek" episodes they like to remake every now and then.
-On a related degree don't treat the doctor's intelligence as some kind of superpower where he does 5d chess throughout time. He's not a marvel superhero, 9th and 10th doctor made it very clear he's smart but not that smart, and however smart he is, he or she is still bound by the wibbly wobbly laws of physics.

And my one potentially controversial take
-Refocus away from the grand narratives back to episodic fun where each episode could be its own self-contained story. It would make the show much more fun for casual viewers who wouldn't need to understand vast pieces of lore just to get what is going on

[TD1]

Oh yea, not everything needs to be back-to-back Gilgameshes.

I'd really love an episode with the Dr's daughter returning. I've been waiting on that one for far too long. I feel that could make a nice, personal episode which explores the character - and not the 'omnicidal (( ))' rage - of the Doctor.

I feel the Smith era attempted to balance the 'unknowable potentially malicious alien' angle fairly well - 'The Warrior, The Hero, The Doctor.' 'Course that's easier when there are three of them running about.

I gave Donna a lot of grief on my first viewing, but growing up is realising that she is indeed OP.

Have you hope for the upcoming season?


Edit: Related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkKK5Km_728

[Loud Whispers]

Oh yea, not everything needs to be back-to-back Gilgameshes.

Especially now that I think about it, some of the best Doctor Who episodes didn't even involve the doctor at all, like the absorbaloth or the weeping angels ones. But this is a bit heretical as a lot of the fans want more doctor in doctor who, and it's kinda an obvious and fair argument. Yet I think there is a lot of opportunity to use Doctor Who as the television version of Gorillaz; just as Gorillaz is a project that exists to grab loads of artists in a big revolving door of experimental fun, Doctor Who could have a load of writers each producing their own fun stories in a rich setting. This would be hugely risky of course, but I think it'd be a worthy risk, especially since trusting everything to an "auteur-director" is much too stressful and unsuccessful task imo for any one person to handle.

I'd really love an episode with the Dr's daughter returning. I've been waiting on that one for far too long. I feel that could make a nice, personal episode which explores the character - and not the 'omnicidal (( ))' rage - of the Doctor.

I feel the Smith era attempted to balance the 'unknowable potentially malicious alien' angle fairly well - 'The Warrior, The Hero, The Doctor.' 'Course that's easier when there are three of them running about.

I never did see the Smith era doctor. And now I can't get into it because the stupid morbing memes live rent free in my sense of humour

Have you hope for the upcoming season?
Edit: Related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkKK5Km_728

I am hopeful but I have one pervading anxiety on the new season, which is that Disney has partnered with the Beeb for the new doctor who and I'm bloody terrified that they will succeed in their horrible ambition to turn every fucking media icon in the world into Tony Stark

[TD1]

.... 'morbing'?

Anyway, you're missing out. Matt Smith does a good Doctor; he's a great actor. And footballer.

Spoilers for next season: the Doctor's fashion will now include a hat with two satellite-like ears. His new catchphrase will be 'you're taking the Mick' accompanied with a meaningful wink towards the camera.

[Il Palazzo]

.... 'morbing'?

'It's morbin' time', said the Doctor before morbing all over the Tardis. (cf. Morbius and the memes it spawned)


I never got to the Capaldi seasons. I don't remember why. Either the balance of cringe to awesome started to sway too far into the former before that, or the novelty simply wore off. The early (new) seasons with Billie Piper and thereabouts were pure sugar rush, though.

[TD1]

Alas and alack, that I live to see the time where my meme knowledge is exceeded by the meme quantity

[Il Palazzo]

These days you can no longer be a polymemeth. You have to specialise. And even then, it takes several hours a day reading comments under youtube videos just to stay on top of the developments in your field.

[Loud Whispers]

.... 'morbing'?

Anyway, you're missing out. Matt Smith does a good Doctor; he's a great actor. And footballer.

Spoilers for next season: the Doctor's fashion will now include a hat with two satellite-like ears. His new catchphrase will be 'you're taking the Mick' accompanied with a meaningful wink towards the camera.

HAVE SAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSS

[Magmacube_tr]

Alas and alack, that I live to see the time where my meme knowledge is exceeded by the meme quantity

You are ancient lol.