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Author Topic: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]  (Read 969526 times)

Ziusudra

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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #8730 on: November 11, 2022, 09:53:35 pm »

When in doubt, truth tables tell the truth.

So there's 4 possibilities: 1st crits, 2nd crits, both crit, neither crit.

1st crits - .05 x .95 = .0475
2nd crits - .95 x .05 = .0475
both crit - .05 x .05 = .0025
neither - .95 x .95 = .9025

.0475 + .0475 + .0025 = .0975 + .9025 = 1

So 9.75% chance for any crit.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #8731 on: November 11, 2022, 09:58:16 pm »

Thank you, I figured out the last part of the table, but I didn't even think to splay out every possibility, so I just wasn't sure.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #8732 on: November 12, 2022, 06:56:14 am »

What if it's a Champion though :D
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #8733 on: November 12, 2022, 10:21:46 am »

Well I imagine the math doesn't change, but now the chance of critting is 10%:

1st crits:  .1 * .9 = .09
2nd crits: .9 * .1 = .09
Both crit: .1 * .1 = .01
Neither:   .9 * .9 = .81

So an overall 18% chance to score one crit, and a 1% chance to score two crits. A level 15 champion with improved critical, the improved crit chance of 18-20 fairs even better, as it is a base 15% chance to crit.

1st:     .15 * .85 = 0.1275
2nd:    .85 * .15 = 0.1275
Both:   .15 * .15 = 0.0225
No crit:.85 * .85 = 0.7225

So a 25.5% chance of 1 crit, and a 2.25% chance of two crits.

I know this is just simple math at this point so it's not like it's a hard question that even needs to be answered, but I'd like to answer it for myself because after trawling reddit threads for like an hour to find a satisfying answer, I'd like to lay the numbers out for myself. The reddit threads I've come across trying to answer it use more complex math, and are trying to answer a more difficult question like "If you rolled 77 times without looking, what are the odds you rolled a 20 somewhere in that 77 rolls?" which is a question that won't help me to know the answer to... not yet at least.

Though when rolling for 1 attack with advantage, I assume that the math is all exactly the same, except there is no chance of a double crit, it only counts as a single crit, so the numbers still add up the same.

/Josh goes back to elementary school math
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #8734 on: November 12, 2022, 01:49:11 pm »

Every time I see people learning to do more maths that they didn't know how to do before it makes me very happy  :D
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #8735 on: November 12, 2022, 06:24:32 pm »

What's really fun is when you start mixing in advantage/disadvantage. An elf samurai 5 with elven accuracy can pop off 4 shots in a round, each attack rolling three d20s and taking the highest.


Crit-fishing may not be particularly lucrative in 5e... But running the numbers can be quite entertaining all on its own :P

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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #8736 on: November 12, 2022, 06:52:25 pm »

Is there a word for when the skin at the base of your nail peels? Like, the sides are hangnails, but I can't find anything for when it comes away at the base like a strip of wallpaper.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #8737 on: November 12, 2022, 10:27:00 pm »

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So 9.75% chance for any crit.
It occurred to me that this was missing some thing, though it depends on how you handle critical fails.

There could be 5 possibilities - neither, both, 1st crits, 2nd crits, and 1st is a critical fail that some how prevents the 2nd. (Don't care if 2nd fails.)

1st crits - .05 x .95 = .0475
2nd crits - .90 x .05 = .045
both crit - .05 x .05 = .0025
neither - .90 x .95 = .855
1st fails - .05

So, in this case 9.5% chance for any crit.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #8738 on: November 12, 2022, 10:39:42 pm »

Nat 1's are a guaranteed miss on any given attack that uses an attack roll, but that is it IIRC. It wouldn't effect the outcome of any other roll. Critical fails or fumbles are a house rule, and aren't in the official rules, if memory serves.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #8739 on: November 13, 2022, 05:11:53 am »

And thank god for that because critical fumbles are an atrocious idea all round.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #8740 on: November 13, 2022, 08:19:38 am »

I will die on this hill: fail on natural 1 rule is implemented critical failure rule

Just like if nat 20s didn't give double damage sice but just auto hit they would still be critical hits


Is there a word for when the skin at the base of your nail peels? Like, the sides are hangnails, but I can't find anything for when it comes away at the base like a strip of wallpaper.

In Swedish we call the base skin "nail bands (strips might also be a good translation)" and when they're damaged we just say "broken nail bands". But I've literally never heard or experienced an entire band coming off like a strip – that sounds terrifying. Please eat your vitamins and milks and I don't know what nails need
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #8741 on: November 13, 2022, 09:23:39 am »

It sort of peels off in a strip-like fashion and leaves some raw skin exposed, but it's not too bad so long as you clip it off. Attempting to yank at it just results in more skin peeling off and more exposed flesh.

It only happens to me if my hands either get really dry or the skin right at the base of the nail gets damaged, it just sucks and I want a name for it so I can bitch about it properly instead of saying "That fucking thingy where your skin peels of at the bottom of your nail"
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #8742 on: November 13, 2022, 04:47:19 pm »

Ah, I love combinatorics and "math with dice" problems.  So fun, and lots of fun breaking the ways that the human brain doesn't have good intuition with statistics.

For example, "How likely is it your 6-sided die is unfair if you roll it 6 times and didn't get a 1?"  (Or put a slightly different way way, how many times do you need to roll a die to be 95% sure you'll get at least one 1?"
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #8743 on: November 14, 2022, 11:14:12 am »

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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #8744 on: November 14, 2022, 05:59:05 pm »

It's still 400$, which is a lot for a gaming accessory.

On the technical side, I don't know how compatible and open it is. Can I run OpenMorrowind VR on it, for example?

But yeah, if you were already looking to buy a VR headset, I don't think this is any worse than the others.
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