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[delphonso]

That was sincere.

There's no way to disprove Solipsism. But it is against intuition and doesn't give much for what it takes away. So most people (hehe) ignore it.

Testing "thinking" is real hard, since we don't have a solid definition of thinking for humans nor a good grasp of how it works for us. So generally testing has been about learning in animals. And just about everything can learn to some degree, as long as it feels pain.

[TheSteppeWolf]

Cells in multicellular orgsnisms don’t all do thinking, but when they are together there is emerging complexity. What does an animal have to do in order for you to consider it thinking?

Be able to provably learn and use its newfound knowledge; be able to either show emotion or interpret them, preferably both; have some degree of social organization.

The higher the degree of those traits, the higher an animal's moral weight is, roughly.

There are solitary animals, di they not think? If I don’t have emotion for like, 3 days, do I not think?

...I'm honestly not sure. There has to be a better way of defining sapience.

Thought is cognition/consciousness to me. Typing is a non-thoight action, but coming up with the words is done in thought.

Is there a way one can determine if others think?

Why do some people think killing flies on sight is unethical? They can't really think, and they are intruding on my territory, and I don't want them to disturb me during gaming, coding, or meditation, whatever. So if I see one I grab the flyswatter.

How would TheSteppeWolf know whether flies can think or not? People don’t really have any way of determining whether other humans think, let alone other animals. We just assume other humans can think because the human doing the assuming has thoughts, so other humans must have thoughts too. Why doesn’t this extend to other animals? They exhibit behaviors too, which when humans do them they are considered thinking. I don’t understand how someone can know that insects don’t think

I think it depends on how advanced said behaviors are. Also if the animal is cute/useful or not, and flies are neither. They're annoying and spread disease.

Also, flies are so plentiful that even if every single human on Earth made it their life goal to personally (no spraying insecticides from airplanes, only cans or flyswatters) kill every fly they see, nonstop, until they die or all flies are wiped out, they won't even *dent* the fly population. There's no way it will result in anything bad if I kill every fly that intrudes in my home.

[Naturegirl1999]

Cells in multicellular orgsnisms don’t all do thinking, but when they are together there is emerging complexity. What does an animal have to do in order for you to consider it thinking?

Be able to provably learn and use its newfound knowledge; be able to either show emotion or interpret them, preferably both; have some degree of social organization.

The higher the degree of those traits, the higher an animal's moral weight is, roughly.

There are solitary animals, di they not think? If I don’t have emotion for like, 3 days, do I not think?

...I'm honestly not sure. There has to be a better way of defining sapience.

Thought is cognition/consciousness to me. Typing is a non-thoight action, but coming up with the words is done in thought.

Is there a way one can determine if others think?

Why do some people think killing flies on sight is unethical? They can't really think, and they are intruding on my territory, and I don't want them to disturb me during gaming, coding, or meditation, whatever. So if I see one I grab the flyswatter.

How would TheSteppeWolf know whether flies can think or not? People don’t really have any way of determining whether other humans think, let alone other animals. We just assume other humans can think because the human doing the assuming has thoughts, so other humans must have thoughts too. Why doesn’t this extend to other animals? They exhibit behaviors too, which when humans do them they are considered thinking. I don’t understand how someone can know that insects don’t think

I think it depends on how advanced said behaviors are. Also if the animal is cute/useful or not, and flies are neither. They're annoying and spread disease.

Also, flies are so plentiful that even if every single human on Earth made it their life goal to personally (no spraying insecticides from airplanes, only cans or flyswatters) kill every fly they see, nonstop, until they die or all flies are wiped out, they won't even *dent* the fly population. There's no way it will result in anything bad if I kill every fly that intrudes in my home.

advanced can be subjective, for all we know, flies can think we are simple for not being able to fly, not being able to molt, not having an exoskeleton, not performing metamorphosis. A person that is paralyzed can still think, even though they can’t move. Whether or not we find an animal useful or not does not automatically change their brain capacity. If we think dogs are annoying and spread disease (every animal spreads disease), that will not change how their brains work. An experiment involving fruit flies showed that they take longer to decide which path to take if both of them smelled the same smell. The smell used was a smell the flies knew was dangerous, the expe5iemtnstsrted with one path being a stronger smell and the other being a weaker version of the same smell. At the beginning, they didn’t take long to pick the path with the weaker smells, but as the paths became more similar, they took l0nger to choose.

[Yoink]

What does "up, up" mean in military terms?   
I'm assuming it means "[on the] up and up" or "all good" or something, but Google was entirely unhelpful in trying to confirm that.   

I'm still wondering about this...   

[TheSteppeWolf]

Cells in multicellular orgsnisms don’t all do thinking, but when they are together there is emerging complexity. What does an animal have to do in order for you to consider it thinking?

Be able to provably learn and use its newfound knowledge; be able to either show emotion or interpret them, preferably both; have some degree of social organization.

The higher the degree of those traits, the higher an animal's moral weight is, roughly.

There are solitary animals, di they not think? If I don’t have emotion for like, 3 days, do I not think?

...I'm honestly not sure. There has to be a better way of defining sapience.

Thought is cognition/consciousness to me. Typing is a non-thoight action, but coming up with the words is done in thought.

Is there a way one can determine if others think?

Why do some people think killing flies on sight is unethical? They can't really think, and they are intruding on my territory, and I don't want them to disturb me during gaming, coding, or meditation, whatever. So if I see one I grab the flyswatter.

How would TheSteppeWolf know whether flies can think or not? People don’t really have any way of determining whether other humans think, let alone other animals. We just assume other humans can think because the human doing the assuming has thoughts, so other humans must have thoughts too. Why doesn’t this extend to other animals? They exhibit behaviors too, which when humans do them they are considered thinking. I don’t understand how someone can know that insects don’t think

I think it depends on how advanced said behaviors are. Also if the animal is cute/useful or not, and flies are neither. They're annoying and spread disease.

Also, flies are so plentiful that even if every single human on Earth made it their life goal to personally (no spraying insecticides from airplanes, only cans or flyswatters) kill every fly they see, nonstop, until they die or all flies are wiped out, they won't even *dent* the fly population. There's no way it will result in anything bad if I kill every fly that intrudes in my home.

advanced can be subjective, for all we know, flies can think we are simple for not being able to fly, not being able to molt, not having an exoskeleton, not performing metamorphosis. A person that is paralyzed can still think, even though they can’t move. Whether or not we find an animal useful or not does not automatically change their brain capacity. If we think dogs are annoying and spread disease (every animal spreads disease), that will not change how their brains work. An experiment involving fruit flies showed that they take longer to decide which path to take if both of them smelled the same smell. The smell used was a smell the flies knew was dangerous, the expe5iemtnstsrted with one path being a stronger smell and the other being a weaker version of the same smell. At the beginning, they didn’t take long to pick the path with the weaker smells, but as the paths became more similar, they took l0nger to choose.

I don't know how to explain this to you, but I find flies much dumber than dogs. I don't think they can even learn instead of acting on instinct.

[delphonso]

What does "up, up" mean in military terms?   
I'm assuming it means "[on the] up and up" or "all good" or something, but Google was entirely unhelpful in trying to confirm that.   

I'm still wondering about this...   

Shameless, Yoink. Do you have a context? I know a few people from different militaries and they might have an answer.

[Kagus]

Do you mean "up" or "hup"? "Hup" is just a colloquial abbreviation of "Get your thumb out of your ass and prove you can move faster than my dead grandma, you limp-dicked sockfucker", and as such has many uses.

[scriver]

That was sincere.

Thank you.  I thought it was very clever!

[hector13]

How do you pronounce the word "inventory"? Where do you put the emphasis?

[Naturegirl1999]

I say inVENTory, but others say that is wrong

[Il Palazzo]

Aren't dictionaries a thing that exists?

[hector13]

Dictionaries don't tell me how other people pronounce words. I've heard it pronounced three different ways at my work by various people, some of whom come from different regions of English speaking countries. I'm curious man, sue me

[Il Palazzo]

Ah. You want to know who pronounces it wrong then.

[Naturegirl1999]

there are there are 10 possible ways, Inventory, inVENTory, inventORy, inventorY, INVENTory, INventORy, INventorY, inVENTORy, inVENTorY, inventORY

[Il Palazzo]

there are there are 10 possible ways, Inventory, inVENTory, inventORy, inventorY, INVENTory, INventORy, INventorY, inVENTORy, inVENTorY, inventORY

Only if you break the rules of the English language. Stresses fall on syllables. I, VENT, OR and Y are not syllables in inventory. Your choices are in-ven-to-ry.