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Author Topic: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]  (Read 968459 times)

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Re: The small random questions thread [Talk about stuff I pretend to understand]
« Reply #1605 on: September 18, 2015, 02:19:46 pm »

Eehhh... they're more evil despot than supervillain, imo. There's overlap, obviously, but supervillains are usually more... personal, I guess? They only tend to have armies when they're extradimensional/extraterrestrial invaders, or made robot/clone/etc. forces.* You'd want more cartel leaders, corrupt businesspeople, that sort of thing. Plenty to choose from, it's just kinda' hard to find names some days, not the least because it's often groups of individuals doing the damage rather than any one person taking the bulk of the blame. I mean, you look at stuff a handful of years back like the tobacco (or lead, or a fair number of other) industry stonewalling/obfuscating information that lead to the deaths of thousands, racking up kill counts and immoral actions that would make the Joker blush, and you have trouble pointing to any particular individual as the primary cause.

Or guys like this, or any number of other "asymmetrical warfare" specialists that've operated throughout the world. Plenty of PMC owners, stuff like that, would probably fit the label pretty well, if you're looking for the modern picture of a supervillain.

*And your exceptions tend to be folks like Dr. Doom, who, despite leading a military force, largely operates either solo or leading small force type of stuff.
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Re: The small random questions thread [Talk about stuff I pretend to understand]
« Reply #1606 on: September 18, 2015, 02:21:31 pm »

What about some really gruesome serial killers? Don't they qualify?
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Re: The small random questions thread [Talk about stuff I pretend to understand]
« Reply #1607 on: September 18, 2015, 02:22:24 pm »

Really I think we're in need of a definition of what constitutes a "supervillain" in this instance.
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« Reply #1608 on: September 18, 2015, 02:29:03 pm »

It'd help.

And maybe, sheb. Again, though, it kinda' feels like it doesn't quite fit, t'me. Just as Hitler and co' are too wide scale, too impersonal, imo, your average serial killer -- even the ones that managed to keep killing for years -- are too narrow, too personal. They're more like particularly unstable mooks, though some would almost certainly fit. You want something in between, a mix of personal touch and expansive sphere of influence.

E: It's not really a narrow field, though -- there's a lot of people or organizations in recent history that match comicbook supervillains in scale of action and direct influence, it's just that they tend to be more background characters to history and media. Not big enough to get major mention in the former (despite doing plenty of damage), not sensational enough to get much attention from the latter (despite many committing some pretty impressive atrocities).

With exceptions. Capone, ferex, would be an obvious example of a relatively recent one, that slots right in with Kingpin types (or arguably the other way around, ha) but is well known.
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Re: The small random questions thread [Talk about stuff I pretend to understand]
« Reply #1609 on: September 18, 2015, 02:55:15 pm »

Joseph Kony, Uganda, born 1961. May or may not fit the bill; more personal than Stalin or Hitler, but way, way above a serial killer.
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« Reply #1610 on: September 18, 2015, 03:03:44 pm »

Yeah, for what it's worth, I'd pretty definitely agree that one would fit.
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Re: The small random questions thread [Talk about stuff I pretend to understand]
« Reply #1611 on: September 20, 2015, 02:56:33 pm »

Where did that one really popular reggae airhorn sample come from? It's pretty much the airhorn at this point, but I have a hard time tracking down where it's from.
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« Reply #1612 on: September 20, 2015, 03:00:16 pm »

Example of the sample?
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« Reply #1613 on: September 20, 2015, 03:06:09 pm »

Example of the sample?
http://www.myinstants.com/instant/dancehall-horn/

It's pretty ubiquitous. Especially around the dank youtube memetages. But actually in Reggae and subgenres too
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Re: The small random questions thread [Talk about stuff I pretend to understand]
« Reply #1614 on: September 20, 2015, 03:13:18 pm »

Ah. Seen this, yet? Site's a little funky to access, apparently, so have a transcript:
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Tl;dr version seems to be "Popularized in the early 90s, building off a tradition started in the '70s."
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« Reply #1615 on: September 20, 2015, 03:45:22 pm »

Site worked fine for me, thanks for the effort though.

But yeah I know the cultural origins, with deejays making noise over the music. I was asking for the specific source of that sample. As in, that one specifically. It's probably a near-impossible thing to pin down, I was just hoping maybe someone knew off the top of their head somehow.
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« Reply #1616 on: September 20, 2015, 03:51:39 pm »

Ah. Well, if it's not the ones mentioned on the site (Joyce or Cipha Sounds), then it may just be some sample. Air horn's an air horn, you can mostly get the same sound out of two different horns, heh.
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« Reply #1617 on: September 20, 2015, 03:55:25 pm »

it may just be some sample. Air horn's an air horn, you can mostly get the same sound out of two different horns, heh.
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But now that you mention it, the obvious answer does seem to be that there's just more than one. Whoops.
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« Reply #1618 on: September 21, 2015, 12:36:53 pm »

I would appreciate it if multiple someones could give me a few real-life supervillains, major and minor, and include the country and year they began their rise to power. I need a base line.

A bit late, but I think General Butt Naked might fit the bill.
He was a commander in the first Liberian civil war in the early 90s, was bros with Satan, gained magical powers- including invisibility and an invulnerability to bullets- by making ritual sacrifices and eating the hearts of small children, went into battle in the nude and even did a comicbook-style 'heel-face turn' later in life, having a religious experience and becoming a priest.

Can't remember how I found out about this guy, but his story is an interesting one.
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« Reply #1619 on: September 22, 2015, 02:04:21 am »

Was the doctrine of Papal Infallibility pronounced ex cathedra?
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