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[Bananarang]

Recently, I had a sudden idea for a creative, (hopefully safe), somewhat productive and hilarious way to kill the clowns.

1) Make a 5x5 room above the clown entrance which you can be sure noone is going to walk past. Carve fortifications into one side only. This side will be connected to 5x2 tiles mined out and connected again (all parallel) to a 3 tile tall corridor which spans left and right.

2) Carve a minecart track down the corridor in the centre tiles. Make the start of the track as appropriate so that a large amount of speed is gained before the cart fires past the clowns. Use metal carts. At the end of the track, allow dwarves to return to fortress without walking past the demons again.

3) Release the clowns via lever.

4) Prepare all marksdwarves to ride minecarts at high velocity past the clowns and fire upon them.

Thoughts?

[MarcAFK]

Marksdwarves can't fire while riding a minecart.
Edit because i was totally wrong.

[flieroflight]

Firing shotguns into the room might be a vable method.

[Bananarang]

Marksdwarves can't fire while riding a minecart.

Vital flaw.

[parlor_tricks]

Really? They can't fire?

. I thought they could definitely punch and grab something as they went passed it - the great patch note from Toady indicated this.

So shouldn't they be able to fire bolts as well?

[arzzult]

Marksdwarves can't fire while riding a minecart.

This isn't true as Toady did indeed make it so things riding mine carts can attack/be attacked. The problem is getting active military units riding a cart.

[Mimodo]

Marksdwarves can't fire while riding a minecart.

You had to spoil the fun

[Replica]

Marksdwarves can't fire while riding a minecart.

This isn't true as Toady did indeed make it so things riding mine carts can attack/be attacked. The problem is getting active military units riding a cart.

Nyes, but will they fire ranged weapons from high speed minecarts?
That is the question.

[Loud Whispers]

Well off duty marksdwarves still shoot at hostiles. All we need is a decent marksdwarf looking for a ride on a minecart heading to goblin city to find out.

[misko27]

Firing shotguns into the room might be a vable method.

'My dream for dwarven armoured personel carriers, DASHED. YOU BASTARD.

Marksdwarves can't fire while riding a minecart.

This isn't true as Toady did indeed make it so things riding mine carts can attack/be attacked. The problem is getting active military units riding a cart.

Nyes, but will they fire ranged weapons from high speed minecarts?
That is the question.

So the dream could still be alive? YES. How about launching a minecart and marksdwarf off a cliff, will they be fighter planes?

[Sutremaine]

This isn't true as Toady did indeed make it so things riding mine carts can attack/be attacked. The problem is getting active military units riding a cart.

You could try making them inactive until they take the 'ride cart' job, and then reactivating them. I've never seen a dwarf cancel a civilian job upon being activated.

But it's probably unecessary anyway -- civilians with crossbows will fire at threats until they run out of bolts, at which point they revert to normal civilian behaviour. If civilians won't fire from a minecart, it's unlikely that soldiers will. But it's still worth a try.

[DrKillPatient]

To get military on minecarts, lock them in a room with the cart (so no other dwarves ride the cart), set them to inactive, and then set the cart  to "ride always" (or have the cart always set to "ride always", but leave it sealed behind a door until they get in the room, then unlock that door). You may have to activate them once they're in the minecart, but as was mentioned earlier, they'll probably attack hostiles anyway.

Also, I think I can confirm that marksdwarves will shoot at things while riding in a minecart. In arena mode, I tried running axedwarves in minecarts past rows of goblins, and they'd strike and be struck occasionally. If melee dwarves attack, I see no reason as to why ranged dwarves will not.

EDIT: I just tested marksdwarves in minecarts in arena mode. They DO fire while riding!

[misko27]

EDIT: I just tested marksdwarves in minecarts in arena mode. They DO fire while riding!

The dream of a perferct perimeter defense force lives on.

[Aviator CJ]

I suppose a minecart riding marksdorf won't refill his quiver from bolts loaded into the cart, will he?

[Mimodo]

-snip-

EDIT: I just tested marksdwarves in minecarts in arena mode. They DO fire while riding!

YAY!!! Bananarang, your theory holds true