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[Sheb]

Don't tell me, I'm cruiing through two bachelor's degree (Biology/Chemistry), planning on a PhD and I get my kick out of science. But religious people seems to have some more drive in them. Mind you, it may be linked to the fact that I'm in Belgium, so the only people I know are religious are the one that are driven.

As for faith/well-being link.

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P.S. I'm on a campus computer, I hope you can access those as well.

[scriver]

And that is why I'm going to create a religion of loving, tolerance, and reason!

[MrWiggles]

And that is why I'm going to create a religion of loving, tolerance, and reason!

I dont think you can. I think you can create a philosophy sure, but not a religion.

[10ebbor10]

And that is why I'm going to create a religion of loving, tolerance, and reason!

I dont think you can. I think you can create a philosophy sure, but not a religion.

It's perfectly possible. There are quite a few actually. There's just a lot of people who are bound to misinterpret things for their own gain, or just out of sheer stupidity, or some other reason.

[scriver]

And that is why I'm going to create a religion of loving, tolerance, and reason!

I dont think you can. I think you can create a philosophy sure, but not a religion.

If you build a community around a philosophy, it becomes a religion. As I see the term, at least.

[10ebbor10]

And that is why I'm going to create a religion of loving, tolerance, and reason!

I dont think you can. I think you can create a philosophy sure, but not a religion.

If you build a community around a philosophy, it becomes a religion. As I see the term, at least.

Yeah, religions are tricky things to define. I'm pretty sure you don't even need to have a god.

[Sheb]

Buddhism.

[Micro102]

There are so many different religions, and all those religions are separated into many branches with many views.In my eyes, that means that at least 90% of the people in the world are wrong about their religion.

[Criptfeind]

And that is why I'm going to create a religion of loving, tolerance, and reason!

That sure worked out for Jesus.

And the God Emperor of Mankind.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

That sure worked out for Jesus.

Tolerent? Maybe. Loving? In name, maybe. Reasonable? Nope.

And the God Emperor of Mankind.

Not tolerant, not loving, and not reasonable. Emps advocated the oppression of psykers and abhumans, hated the xeno, and didn't listen to any point of view but his own. That last part is even what lead to his downfall, since he wouldn't listen to his psyker clone-son-thing Magnus the Red.

This is opposed to the Interex, who were tolerant and reasonable. They let their people know about the dangers of KAYOS, unlike the Imperium, and this kept them much safer from it since no one with actual knowledge of what Chaos entails would want to join up. They allied with any peaceful alien races they could find, which made them stronger. And it would have worked out if not for the Imperium conquering them.

Seriously, the Emperor absolutely sucked at his job. The only reason it went so well in the first place was that he was so unbelievably powerful, thanks to his psyker powers no less, the hypocrite.

[scriver]

Buddhism.

I'm not sure there's very many Buddhist branches that don't believe in all kinds of spirits and supernatural beings, though, even if just a handful of them outright believes in some kind of god or god-like spirit.

That sure worked out for Jesus.

Tolerent? Maybe. Loving? In name, maybe. Reasonable? Nope.

J-Man himself may not have been(/will be) all that nice, but the point is that the philosophy he told his followers to behave acording to was. His followers have to be ever tolerant, ever loging, ever caring of everyone else no matter who thewly are or what they've done, or no Heaven for them. That's pretty much his message in a nutshell.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

J-Man himself may not have been(/will be) all that nice, but the point is that the philosophy he told his followers to behave acording to was. His followers have to be ever tolerant, ever loging, ever caring of everyone else no matter who thewly are or what they've done, or no Heaven for them. That's pretty much his message in a nutshell.

In my experience, most Christians would disagree, in action if not in word.

[10ebbor10]

J-Man himself may not have been(/will be) all that nice, but the point is that the philosophy he told his followers to behave acording to was. His followers have to be ever tolerant, ever loging, ever caring of everyone else no matter who thewly are or what they've done, or no Heaven for them. That's pretty much his message in a nutshell.

In my experience, most Christians would disagree, in action if not in word.

It's the central message in the New Testament though. You should try to be tolerant, help everyone ,... . 
Keep in mind that Christianity has an imperfect God in the new testament. The divine part makes some mistakes and can be reasoned over by ...(can't remember the prophet's name) during the destruction of Sodom and Gomorra (Which he just planned to raze completely).

Jezus himself has the enough examples, and was also nailed to the cross, which you don't expect to happen to the manifestation of a God.

Also, forget Heaven. God had no sense of scale and reserved way to few places.

[Scoops Novel]

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Hey, the emperor started off better then that. He was still a dictator to some degree at least, however he only stopped advocating atheism after he was confined in the golden throne, he wished to use the webway in stead of the navigator (i think that's it, ot something like it) mutation so humanity wouldn't be exposed to chaos, but at a crucial moment Magnus contacted him and accidentally caused a chaos breakthrough on terra no less which was why the golden throne was constructed in the first place. The emperors main flaw's was being irrational when it came to his sons, and of course going ever so slightly mad (possibly/probably) after the death of Horus. It all went to hell from there.

Interestingly enough, apparently there was another potentially immortal human about, born in our times and who accidentally died from a car crash after being approached with interest by the emperor (who knows how many lives that could have saved), who was resurrected and recruited by either the interex or another alien organization similar to them. I'd love to know what happened to him..

Ahem. Too much time on the lexicanum. Out of interest, how many wars have been fought internally and outside it over Buddhism?

[Criptfeind]

J-Man himself may not have been(/will be) all that nice, but the point is that the philosophy he told his followers to behave acording to was. His followers have to be ever tolerant, ever loging, ever caring of everyone else no matter who thewly are or what they've done, or no Heaven for them. That's pretty much his message in a nutshell.

In my experience, most Christians would disagree, in action if not in word.

That's the point.