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What execution would you prefer?

Labor camp
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List of choices (would you like to be killed by woodchipper, firing squad, gascambers...)
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Choose how to die (with restrictions, or course, no "I want to be nuked in the dining hall")
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Generic Lethal injection
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Electroshock
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Life in prison
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Other (Specify)
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No opinion
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Author Topic: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion  (Read 340384 times)

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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1050 on: August 16, 2012, 01:05:48 pm »

Ahum. Airpressure on Mars is extremely low. 500km/ hour winds might seem strong, but in fact they are nothing.
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1051 on: August 16, 2012, 01:08:30 pm »

i don't know the exact speeds , but if the storm is 6 months long .....
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« Reply #1052 on: August 16, 2012, 01:13:09 pm »

i don't know the exact speeds , but if the storm is 6 months long .....
For once I agree with brainfreez. It may not hurt much but it will seriously muck up visability and solar power.
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1053 on: August 16, 2012, 01:19:22 pm »

i don't know the exact speeds , but if the storm is 6 months long .....
It also happens once every six years. Also, due to the fact it obscures the sun, temperatures are going to go way down, potentially destroying your windmills.

Also, the duststorms will reduce incoming solar power by 99%.

Btw, the Martian rovers weighted barely 200 kg, and they managed to get through the storms entirely intact. (Except for dust on the solar pannels, which proved to be quite dangerous, and in fact, ultimately killed Spirit.)
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1054 on: August 16, 2012, 01:19:49 pm »

Stop, stop! It's not going to be REMOTELY easy to make Mars warm and with a breatheable atmosphere; aside from some greenhouses, domes, and such, we should mostly be underground anyways, for protection. If all we had aboveground were solar power plants and piles of mine waste, that would be fine and ideal. Terraforming can wait until AFTER we conquer Terra and develop terraforming tech.

Or, we can engineer ourselves to be more tolerant of cold and high CO2 concentrations.
1: I didn't say it would be easy.
2: It's a long term project.
3: we should not genetically modify ourselves. Try it out on yourself first, but whatever happens, don't say I didn't warn you..
1. Obviously. But will it be worth it?
2. Seeing as we don't even have the tech to start, yep, it will be.
3. Why not?

hey , if a 500km/h wind is blowing in your direction , not only it will rip your suit off but it will blow you around the planet .
For a certain definition of "you," yes. The "you" being blown around will probably be most of you, just not all in one piece. Hurricane-force dust-storms are scary.

how we will weaponise the storms ? we will build a huge tube aimed at earth and hope the wind will strike them ?  -_-

i suggest instead of weaponising the wind , we could make adamantine windmills and gather power .
We'll weaponize it the same way we weaponize a biome that raises zombies: Lock ourselves up and wait for it to tear the invaders apart.

how we will weaponise the storms ? we will build a huge tube aimed at earth and hope the wind will strike them ?  -_-

i suggest instead of weaponising the wind , we could make adamantine windmills and gather power .
Good idea. But where will we get the adamantine?
Don't we have a committee working on how to synthesize it? If not, the magma sea of Mars is mostly solid, so it should be easier to dig around inside and go looking...especially if I make some giant dragon-mole thingies that eat rock first...

Ahum. Airpressure on Mars is extremely low. 500km/ hour winds might seem strong, but in fact they are nothing.
The dust they blow around is something, though. Normal sandstorms muck up electronics. Super-fast duststorms? They'd probably be far more destructive...

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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1055 on: August 16, 2012, 01:36:14 pm »

They are not that destructive. Spirit and Opportunity survived them without problems(except for solar power), and weren't designed for such an experience at all (Their estimated lifetime was 90 days).

Also, due to the low airpressure, they won't blow you around. Going out with a spacesuit is still certain death though, because you won't find the way back which such a low visibility. They won't shred your suit immediatly, but might wear it out.

Also, Mars doesn't like electronics at all. The cold, the solar winds, the sandstorms. It is one of the most dangerous environements we know and managed to visit.

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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1056 on: August 16, 2012, 02:00:19 pm »

Except for [insert large city you dislike here], of course.
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« Reply #1057 on: August 16, 2012, 02:07:05 pm »

Except for [insert large city you dislike here], of course.
Context?
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1058 on: August 16, 2012, 02:09:21 pm »

Fuckin' [insert large city you dislike here], man. Send me off to a hostile alien environment any day of the week, as long as it means I never have to visit that place again...

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« Reply #1059 on: August 16, 2012, 02:27:18 pm »

Except for [insert large city you dislike here], of course.
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It's harder to offend people. For instance: If I said Camden, New Jersey, instead of [insert large city you dislike here], people from Camden (and perhaps other areas of NJ) would get angry at me.
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1060 on: August 16, 2012, 02:29:26 pm »

Except for [insert large city you dislike here], of course.
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It's harder to offend people. For instance: If I said Camden, New Jersey, instead of [insert large city you dislike here], people from Camden (and perhaps other areas of NJ) would get angry at me.
How many people here have ever even been to Camden, let alone live there. I haven't even Heard of it, and I live in NYC
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1061 on: August 16, 2012, 02:32:25 pm »

It's on the other side of NJ.
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1062 on: August 16, 2012, 03:35:43 pm »

Damn , everyone is from America .
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1063 on: August 16, 2012, 04:10:39 pm »

Where are you from, then?
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« Reply #1064 on: August 16, 2012, 04:12:05 pm »

Damn , everyone is from America .
Look, we'll send you money for a plane ticket, okay? If we're building any of this ourselves, it will be a almost microscopic in comparison.
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