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What execution would you prefer?

Labor camp
- 4 (20%)
List of choices (would you like to be killed by woodchipper, firing squad, gascambers...)
- 8 (40%)
Choose how to die (with restrictions, or course, no "I want to be nuked in the dining hall")
- 6 (30%)
Generic Lethal injection
- 1 (5%)
Electroshock
- 0 (0%)
Life in prison
- 0 (0%)
Other (Specify)
- 1 (5%)
No opinion
- 0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 20


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Author Topic: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion  (Read 340329 times)

GreatWyrmGold

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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1575 on: September 01, 2012, 04:32:24 pm »

Why am I not listed as F.O.R.G.O.T.E.N.B.E.A.S.T. yet?


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As for the person who put arse naked in the poll: seriously? In the bay12 forums? You might have well put a 'this poll is stupid' option.
Motion seconded, motion carried.
Motion denied. If needed I will enact the second mos popular option, but I refuse to restart the poll.
Its winning, so you would think that more people like then then not  8)
Clothing by profession is catching up. my option is a distant third. No majority, and I can make up my own rules from there. No one wants naked people. And if they do, their never allowed to wear clothes. Not even on spacewalks.
Motion seconded, motion carried.
I'd like to suggest that naked people be forbidden to use subways or other types of pressurised transport between sub-colonies on the Martian or Lunar surface.

On death penalty: I think it'll be outlawed in the constitutional draft except for circumstances where it is unavoidable and the criminal getting away is not an option. It should however be kept as a voluntary alternative to lifetime imprisonment/forced labor/test subject duty.

And the penalty for corruption and other forms of treason will of course be woodchippering.
Erm, lifetime imprisonment? You mean, saying "This guy can't be let free into either our colony or the wider system, ever, so let's lock him up and spend money feeding and housing him/her until s/he dies?" Unless there's some testing, feeding, laboring, or something going on there, I disagree.
And woodchippers are so messy. Unless you're referring to one of my pet projects.

death penalty seems a useless waste of resources , we could make them do eternal slavery , use their souls as toilet paper or other useful stuff .
Feeding them to a pet project would save resources, both on feeding projects and on housing and feeding inmates.

As to punishments: I think labor camps would be most efficient, and perhaps slightly less bad for PR than large-scale executions, if we keep the conditions O.K. For executions, I recommend Old Age, Chocolate, and Love. Those are three of the big monsters I'm planning to create.
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1576 on: September 01, 2012, 04:48:50 pm »

Ah-em... ETHICAL is still not listed.
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Zanzetkuken The Great

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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1577 on: September 01, 2012, 04:52:54 pm »

Waffle keep record of all results

And update the crew roster!  I am not on there, nor are many of the organizations brought up recently!
Done and done. If I missed any poll results or crew members, just let me know and I will add them.

You missed all of these:
Ah-em... ETHICAL is still not listed.
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1578 on: September 01, 2012, 05:00:56 pm »

I'm glad I'm not just typing to a brick wall.

Idioms don't always age well, do they?
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1579 on: September 01, 2012, 06:40:12 pm »


By the way misko27,  are these ethics going to be how we base our regulations on mars?
Code: [Select]
[ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:IF_JUSTIFIED]
[ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_ENEMY:REQUIRED]
[ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:REQUIRED]
[ETHIC:KILL_PLANT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_AS_EXAMPLE:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_INFORMATION:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:REQUIRED]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:ACCEPATBLE]
[ETHIC:TREASON:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
[ETHIC:OATH_BREAKING:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
[ETHIC:LYING:PERSONAL_MATTER]
[ETHIC:VANDALISM:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:TRESPASSING:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:THEFT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:ASSAULT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:SLAVERY:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:SHUN]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]

I'm guessing this is the forum ethics file. Edit if needed.
I see that Torture for Fun is Required by law.... right.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2012, 09:28:25 pm by Cthulufaic »
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1580 on: September 01, 2012, 06:42:21 pm »

Sorry to be a law-breaker.
Torture for fun should be OUTLAWED. It's sickening and will kill relations with Terra before we can get entrenched in our power base.
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1581 on: September 01, 2012, 07:21:30 pm »

By the way misko27,  are these ethics going to be how we base our regulations on mars?
Code: [Select]
[ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:IF_JUSTIFIED]
[ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_ENEMY:REQUIRED]
[ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:REQUIRED]
[ETHIC:KILL_PLANT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_AS_EXAMPLE:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_INFORMATION:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:REQUIRED]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:ACCEPATBLE]
[ETHIC:TREASON:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
[ETHIC:OATH_BREAKING:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
[ETHIC:LYING:PERSONAL_MATTER]
[ETHIC:VANDALISM:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:TRESPASSING:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:THEFT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:ASSAULT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:SLAVERY:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:SHUN]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]

I'm guessing this is the forum ethics file. Edit if needed.

How did that get there? huh.
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Zanzetkuken The Great

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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1582 on: September 01, 2012, 07:23:52 pm »

By the way misko27,  are these ethics going to be how we base our regulations on mars?
Code: [Select]
[ETHIC:KILL_ENTITY_MEMBER:IF_JUSTIFIED]
[ETHIC:KILL_NEUTRAL:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:KILL_ENEMY:REQUIRED]
[ETHIC:KILL_ANIMAL:REQUIRED]
[ETHIC:KILL_PLANT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_AS_EXAMPLE:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_INFORMATION:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_FOR_FUN:REQUIRED]
[ETHIC:TORTURE_ANIMALS:ACCEPATBLE]
[ETHIC:TREASON:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
[ETHIC:OATH_BREAKING:PUNISH_CAPITAL]
[ETHIC:LYING:PERSONAL_MATTER]
[ETHIC:VANDALISM:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:TRESPASSING:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:THEFT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:ASSAULT:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:SLAVERY:PUNISH_SERIOUS]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_OTHER:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:EAT_SAPIENT_KILL:UNTHINKABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAME_RACE:SHUN]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_SAPIENT:ACCEPTABLE]
[ETHIC:MAKE_TROPHY_ANIMAL:ACCEPTABLE]

I'm guessing this is the forum ethics file. Edit if needed.

How did that get there? huh.

I am on the DF Community Games & Stories often, trying to read up on the "lore of the forum."
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1583 on: September 02, 2012, 03:32:25 am »

Choose how to die and List of Choices are really close! this is going too be a close one! Im ending the poll when I wake up tomarrow, unless its tied, so vote now!

And plus, with our limited budget, I got a great deal on this sign!

« Last Edit: September 02, 2012, 03:40:27 am by WaffleEggnog »
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1584 on: September 02, 2012, 04:21:42 am »

I'm still not on the crew roster.
Please add me as IT admins and builder of B.O.O.Z.E. (Big Organic Overcomplicated and Zealous Electronics, better known as "The AI").

Could you please add me to the roster?
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1585 on: September 02, 2012, 12:59:12 pm »

I'm glad I'm finally listed with my titles.

(By the way: F.O.R.G.O.T.E.N.B.E.A.S.T. is just the official title for the head of the B.I.O.G.L.a.D.O.S.)
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1586 on: September 02, 2012, 01:17:06 pm »

Im ending the poll..... now! Looks like list of choices won! Also, sorry about forgetting to get all of of in the crew roster, its alot to keep track of
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1587 on: September 02, 2012, 02:51:47 pm »

Im ending the poll..... now! Looks like list of choices won! Also, sorry about forgetting to get all of of in the crew roster, its alot to keep track of
Don't worry. Your roster is now more complete than Acetech's.
What'll the next poll be on, bearing mind that people lie when presented with clipboards.
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Are there any more questions for the research committee?
Also: expect first MADPLANS report tomorrow. Here or Logistics?
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Re: The Bay12 Space program - Open discussion
« Reply #1588 on: September 02, 2012, 03:43:37 pm »

Im ending the poll..... now! Looks like list of choices won! Also, sorry about forgetting to get all of of in the crew roster, its alot to keep track of
Don't worry. Your roster is now more complete than Acetech's.
What'll the next poll be on, bearing mind that people lie when presented with clipboards.
...
Are there any more questions for the research committee?
Also: expect first MADPLANS report tomorrow. Here or Logistics?
Logistics has been a bit inactive latley. Not sure what acetech is up too....
I think it putting your report here would be better, but it's your choice.
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« Reply #1589 on: September 02, 2012, 03:45:25 pm »

Logistics has been a bit inactive latley. Not sure what acetech is up too....
I think it putting your report here would be better, but it's your choice.

Here it is, then.
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