1. Uhm, several algae species can already survive in Venus upper athmosphre. The only thing they need to do is turn co2 into oxygen, allowing us to use that rather than producing our own. Since algae are photosynthetic, no actual modification would be needed.
Is there that much sulfur in our atmosphere? Is the acid in the air that little of an issue?
3.Even then. Most missions just swing back between Earth and moon, fly pass Mars, and then head to the outer system. Venus is almost never used.
Seeing as my sources were diagrams in magazines I read years ago and/or in-school stuff, I won't argue more on this point. Let me just repeat: It would be an advantage, and you don't hand out advantages when you're the underdog.
4.Considering we're planning to stay in the upper athmosphere and not land on the surface,which is notorious for burning things to a crisp/ squashing them./ dissolving them, I don't see the probelm.
The problem is that the groundhogs could drop NUKES on us!
5. Who talked about shielding the planet. Our artificial magnetic field just needs to shield the base, nothing more,
Great, another thing to go wrong!
6.Then again, who says you need to let the nukes get close. Nukes are not designed for athmospherical reentry, and intercepting them in their space flight is fairly easy.
I was assuming that they'd send warships our way and fire them then. Like
we would have to. Because they're not idiots.
7. I can do a rant about why astrology is utter nonsence too, but I don't want to derail the derail.
That was actually my point.
OKAY!!! SHUT UP!!! Heres a idea. we do what loud whispers sugestted and send the clones to other places. Except venus, cause fuck that. Anyway, Wherever we eventuall pick, It needs to be defensible. I don't want to be so happy about attacking earth only to have a terran missile puncture the side of the room, sucking us out into space or poisining us all. In addition, defenses against infantry will be needed, as when they realize they can't nuke us away, infantry will be next, aircraft and tanks too. My reccomendation of genetically engineered war mount booze-blobs with tusks that feed on corpses
First off, cloning enough of us to send all of us to a bunch of different places would be difficult, horribly expensive, and IIRC, illegal. Second off, to be honest, if we don't put a mile or so of rock between us and outer space, we're screwed if the groundhogs decide to toss a nuke at us. Therefore, we focus on either not pissing the groundhogs off, not being where they send the nukes, or getting a ton of rock between space and the vital systems. Infantry could be an issue, but if we're smart we can use the terrain of the place WE build to make them fight on
our terms.
Maybe we could engineer the martians into some sort of primitive, booze based blob that eats rotten corpses, and then stick a tap onto the side of this creature. THEN, we coul dride said creature as mounts of war, and have a refreshing drink mid-battle, reducing ineffectiveness due to people running off to drink.
Could help, But we need a solution to counter strikes and invasion. Now, heres what i'm thinking;
1. Cripple Earths space capabilities as previously mentioned.
2. Survive any counter missiles or long-range weaponry.
3. Prepare for Earth forces to land/dock wherever we are.
4. Cripple Terran Resources to drive them into the ground.
5. Wait.
6. When they can no longer defend themselves, Crush them.
1. This could be important. We need a way to disable Cape Canaveral, the other place in the U.S. that launches spacecraft, and the equivalents in China, Russia, and so forth. All before they can retaliate. This means a fast, coordinated strike, probably involving nukes of our own. This is assuming that Earthlings don't get a lot more space capabilities between now and when we attack, and seeing as we're assuming we can get a colony up and running on Luna, Mars, or wherever, that's not an assumption we can make. So...crap.
2. Space guerrilla warfare. Modify the bits requiring camouflage, and you're halfway there.
3. Vital.
4. Good luck. Unless you mean "Bomb their oil fields, titanium mines, and such while their warships are hunting us," in which case, this'll be tougher than Step 1, because there'll be more targets, more awareness on the government's part, and a LOT more civilian casualties. This last one will be important--if people want us dead, the governments of the world will do their best to make us DEAD.
5. Optional.
6. Required.
Because do you know how hard it is to hijack near-earth objects? I prefer throwing large rocks at cape canaveral. As someone else said, the gravitational force will accerate it to deadly levels. If we make it very thin and very heavy. we can bypass terminal velocity.
Start with unpopulated areas, to scare them. If they do what we want, no (non-retarded, if we warn them) civilian casualties, so we aren't as much of villains.
also, you're both right, And, if we make lots of debris in earths orbit, it will be like a huge minefield. At those speeds, a astronaut's glove's thumb hits with the force of a grenade.
Which is as much boon as bane. Also, it would take a HELL of a lot of debris to surround the Earth.
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