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Re: Suika Fortress: Cross Forum Edition! CrossedHorns: Fall 106
« Reply #105 on: July 27, 2012, 03:36:21 pm »

Maybe if we're lucky, Neko stole everything the traders brought (by deconstructing the depot after they unpacked everything).
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Re: Suika Fortress: Cross Forum Edition! CrossedHorns: Fall 106
« Reply #106 on: July 27, 2012, 03:46:26 pm »

From what he told me, I (in my depressed/manic mood) apparently destroyed the trade depot while the trading was going on. I don't quite remember if destroying a depot is equivalent to deconstructing it (as in, the same bug will occur), but it didn't sound like he got a replacement pick from the traders. I'll have to see what remains of the fort next spring.
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Re: Suika Fortress: Cross Forum Edition! CrossedHorns: Fall 106
« Reply #107 on: July 27, 2012, 04:45:20 pm »

What I didn't notice until after I got back home was that he also managed to lose both our picks. Killing half our fort and losing half our precious steel? That's a-ok. Losing both our copper picks? That's unforgivable >:(

And this was the big reason I suggested we bring ores for bronze instead of steel. Since we can bring almost double what we could in iron. So losing a handful of picks, armour and weapons wouldn't hurt as bad. But anyways, the caravan should have some supplies in it for getting the fort goin again.

Honestly I expected half the suikas to be dead in that first season spent getting underground. But they made it and even got the first migrant wave safely inside without incident. So a lil healthy dose of "Fun" in the caverns isn't too bad and is a nice lesson to our current overseer and hopefully future overseers too, about the use of caution perhaps? Or not xP
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Re: Suika Fortress: Cross Forum Edition! CrossedHorns: Fall 106
« Reply #108 on: July 27, 2012, 05:18:13 pm »

I did caution him, he just blatantly ignored me for the sake of screwing around. I did expect losses myself in the form of Suikas, but he knows all we have is useless Zinc underground and yet he decided to charge into the caverns without backup and without a weapon. Honestly I still don't know what he was thinking when he did that.

Also, Neko and I were worried that we wouldn't have enough fuel (logs) by the time we got underground to smelt all the copper and tin into bronze. So we just settled for bringing iron in the form of hematite, and if Neko thought it would be possible to get flux stone before we actually needed the armor, he'd go for steel. Which he ended up doing fine, until he lost half of it in the caverns.
« Last Edit: July 27, 2012, 05:20:26 pm by Syanas »
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Re: Suika Fortress: Cross Forum Edition! CrossedHorns: Fall 106
« Reply #109 on: July 27, 2012, 07:35:24 pm »

Well its not a total wash yet. Was he able to get the zombies contained and did the tantrum burn itself out yet? And on the bright side, you can seal up the caverns now. And then dig a large room in the soil layers for the wood. It'll still take time for the trees to grow but will have some safe wood reserves and food for future overseers.
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Re: Suika Fortress: Cross Forum Edition! CrossedHorns: Fall 106
« Reply #110 on: July 28, 2012, 03:45:01 am »

I did caution him, he just blatantly ignored me for the sake of screwing around. I did expect losses myself in the form of Suikas, but he knows all we have is useless Zinc underground and yet he decided to charge into the caverns without backup and without a weapon. Honestly I still don't know what he was thinking when he did that.

Also, Neko and I were worried that we wouldn't have enough fuel (logs) by the time we got underground to smelt all the copper and tin into bronze. So we just settled for bringing iron in the form of hematite, and if Neko thought it would be possible to get flux stone before we actually needed the armor, he'd go for steel. Which he ended up doing fine, until he lost half of it in the caverns.
Fuel is very cheap when brought from embark in the form of bitumous coal (it yield 9 pieces since 34.11 I think).

EDIT: I do hope Neko got around to requesting a ton of metal from the traders? (they still take requests after you rob them..)
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Re: Suika Fortress: Cross Forum Edition! CrossedHorns: Fall 106
« Reply #111 on: July 28, 2012, 04:18:12 am »

on the fuel problem, cant you smelt copper and tin ore to produce 8 bronze bars at the cost of only 1 piece of coal? i remember doing this with brass for trade goods
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Re: Suika Fortress: Cross Forum Edition! CrossedHorns: Fall 106
« Reply #112 on: July 28, 2012, 07:08:38 am »

on the fuel problem, cant you smelt copper and tin ore to produce 8 bronze bars at the cost of only 1 piece of coal? i remember doing this with brass for trade goods
Not with the stock reactions anyhow, those take tin and copper in a 1:1 proportion. The ore reaction thus yields 2 bars per 1 fuel.
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Re: Suika Fortress: Cross Forum Edition! CrossedHorns: Fall 106
« Reply #113 on: July 28, 2012, 10:47:24 am »

on the fuel problem, cant you smelt copper and tin ore to produce 8 bronze bars at the cost of only 1 piece of coal? i remember doing this with brass for trade goods

As far as I know the ore reactions do that, unless they have been changed in Suika Fortress. The bar reactions take 1 bar of copper and 1 bar of tin to produce 2 bars of bronze at the cost of one fuel.
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Re: Suika Fortress: Cross Forum Edition! CrossedHorns: Fall 106
« Reply #114 on: July 28, 2012, 04:38:17 pm »

on the fuel problem, cant you smelt copper and tin ore to produce 8 bronze bars at the cost of only 1 piece of coal? i remember doing this with brass for trade goods
Not with the stock reactions anyhow, those take tin and copper in a 1:1 proportion. The ore reaction thus yields 2 bars per 1 fuel.

quote from the raws (of vanilla DF):
[REACTION:BRONZE_MAKING]
[NAME:make bronze bars (use ore)]
[BUILDING:SMELTER:NONE]
[REAGENT:A:1:METAL_ORE:TIN]
[REAGENT:B:1:METAL_ORE:COPPER]
[PRODUCT:100:8:BAR:NO_SUBTYPE:METAL:BRONZE][PRODUCT_DIMENSION:150]
[FUEL]
[SKILL:SMELT]
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Re: Suika Fortress: Cross Forum Edition! CrossedHorns: Fall 106
« Reply #115 on: July 28, 2012, 05:50:21 pm »

Oh what the hell, thats new. Seems ore yield in general was upped a lot, however none of this ever got mentioned in the file change log (beside the ones of coal). Never noticed this since I havnt used stock reactions in a while now...

Guess ill be updating my own mods for a while.
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Re: Suika Fortress: Cross Forum Edition! CrossedHorns: Fall 106
« Reply #116 on: July 28, 2012, 06:39:50 pm »

Yes, the bar yields went up to compensate when Toady adjusted the stone/ore drop rates. It's been in for a few versions now. As for coal/lignite, civs don't always have it for embarking with. So, I've grown used to just bringin plenty of wood on embarks where the surface supply is going to be limited by scarcity or sheer lethality such as an evil embark.
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Re: Suika Fortress: Cross Forum Edition! CrossedHorns: Fall 106
« Reply #117 on: July 28, 2012, 07:44:32 pm »

Winter, Year 1


...Actually I don't have much to report for Winter. I spent pretty much all of it cleaning up the mess I made during autumn.

Starting with a mass-grave.

Here lies the 8 brave suikas who each died for hilariously bad reasons. May their respective forum members not murder me in my sleep.

Syanas and Grimlocke eventually died of thirst, and were successfully entombed before they could zombify.

Eventually the Suikan Traders left, preferring to take the Underground Route out of the fort.
Since Grimlocke destroyed the Trade Depot they left most of their shit with me, including several picks and a bunch of armor. That should prove useful to the next player.

 I requested a shit-ton of iron and steel bars, along with more armor and warhammers and some other essential goods, so the next caravan will hopefully bring the goods.

Nobody else died aside from the insane folk, which means there's plenty of suikas still running around. HighZealot is the only remaining survivor of the Original Seven. Lucky bastard.


And that pretty much concludes Year 1 of Crossedhorns. Pretty exciting, eh?

All the jobs are covered so it'll be like starting back at Year 1, except with 3 more suikas then usual.

I left a few Notes for the next player. Yes, the levers are marked.
The only real problem that Crossedhorns has is that the fort entrance is a squatting ground for a few undead folk, which is going to be a problem for the next migrant wave. However, this is not my problem, so whatever. That'll be your challenge for the Spring.

Here's the save! Good luck! Have FUN!
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Re: Suika Fortress: Cross Forum Edition! CrossedHorns: Fall 106
« Reply #118 on: July 28, 2012, 07:51:40 pm »

Journal of HighZealot

I've survived. My beardhorns intact. They say only the insane have the strength to prosper and only those who prosper may truly judge what is sane. Those who died were the lucky one because they did not need to see the insanity that comes with prosperity for there is no peace among this world. Only an eternity of carnage and slaughter and the laughter... of the gap youkai.

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« Reply #119 on: July 29, 2012, 01:25:13 am »

And with that Syanas will now take her turn.... But in the meantime.... an intermission piece!

Yukari sat as she watched the events unfold in the little world she crafted to put Suika up to tha chllenge. The first year was quite rough as 6 out of 7 of the orginal founders have died and now some of them have become updead... and to top it off now there are corpses roaming around both above and below the area.... Somehow Suika was able to keep most of the Suikas alive thankfully....

"Well, I'm quite impressed that you managed to survive the first year in such a terrible place. Most don't even make it past the first season without becoming part of the cursed here."

"Yeah, it was no problem, though I wish I didn't mess up so much."

"Well everyone learns your mistakes, so what doesn't kill you should make you stronger."




Just then, two girls came walking up to the shrine looking tired and exhausted, a red and white shrine maiden and a black and white magician....



"Reimu, why do you think the hermit had us work with her animals today?"

"She told us, that perhaps if we bonded more with her pets that maybe we could find a way to better ourselves I think."

"I feel like I've become someone's animal caretaker.... also giant eagles aren't my thing... it's not like riding a broom ze!"

"I think you letting it get over your head Marisa. Either way, I just glad that's over. I don't want to continue being a babysitter..."




Just then Reimu and Marisa arrive at the shrine and notice Suika and Yukari sitting at the front steps as they saw them talking and interacting with some strange land formation that was on the table.




"Great.... now I have two youkai lounging at my Shrine..." Reimu mutters with discontent.

Yukari turns around and sees Reimu and waves in her direction.

"Oh Reimu, I see your back finally!"

"Yeah, and why are you two sitting here in front of my shrine...."

"Well you see, Suika here has been a little bored since you left so the two of us decided to play a little game here."

Yukari then points at the table with the land structure and what looked like barren dead forest with blue slime dripping form the trees. Reimu looks at it with a sense of confusion....

"Exactly what does this have to do with anything?"

"Oh you probably can't see... so here let me show you...

Yukari create a few gaps in the layers of dirt and shift the land upward revealing what looked like a busy little settlement filled with tiny duplicates of Suikas running around gather stuff....

"Just what is this all about? And why are there tiny versions of you in this Suika?"

"I'm taking on a challege from Yukari Reimu~!" Suika shouted as she took another swig of her sake before focusing on the game again.

"Great... This feels like I'm looking at an oni playing around with an ant farm... I don't have time for this I'm going to eat right now...."

"Oh? May I join you then? We haven't for a while...."

Reimu lets out a sigh before accepting Yukari request...

"Fine, I guess your welcome..."




Mean while Marisa comes over and checks out the land Suika is focusing on...



"Wow this is really neat ze! What are you trying to do here?"

"I'm making a land in which my kind can survive and thrive!" Suika said cheerfully

"How did it all start actually?"

"Well there were  7 little version of me that came to the area and we had to go hide from the strange things that roam here and....

"Oh so they are the founders? Can I see them?"

Suika looks down with a bit of depression....

"All have died except for one......"

Marisa seem a little disappointed....

"Huh, you mean they are all killed by the crazy things that are roaming around up in that slime ridden forest?"

"No.... it was underground...."

"Heh, so the danger is all over the place isn't it." Marisa said with a big grin."

"Yeah, pretty much, but I think I can handle it"

"Mmmm... well since the founders aren't around. The least I can tell you to do is give them all a proper burial." Otherwise they're just going keep looking for blood everywhere they go. In fact if you can do that by the end of the year, then you should try to get other that die buried as well!"

"You think that'll be possible?"

"Well if you plan things out, you shouldn't have much trouble right? At least with the ones who you can actually retrieve...."

"Yeah, that shouldn't be a problem!"

"Think you can get the dead founders in their resting place by a year?"

"Your on!"

"Say I'm also curious... Suika..."

"Think you have what it takes to catch a thief?"

"Huh?"

" I think you can, but I advice you... it's harder to do than you think."

CHALLENGES!

We the Founders:Keep the Founders alive at all cost! Do not let them die (exception is old age of course) FAILED!

Proper respect of your fellow founding Suika: Bury your founding Suikas in a proper burial site) Condition must be completed before next spring

It takes a thief...: Capture an Inaba or Yukkudaiyousei thief... ALIVE! Condition must be completed before 5 years from Spring


And there you go! Good luck Syanas! You're gonna need it!
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