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[Twiggie]

Yeah I need a link to the actual kingdoms abound download, can't read the thread...

[Johnfalcon99977]

I plan on being a Norman Ruler though to spread English culture. This doesn't get rid of the "Ruler is Norman" requirement. This just makes it so that the Kingdom of England specificly doesn't need to exist for it to happen.

If you want to do the culture spread thing you should be doing it by the same rules as everyone else.

Except you can't spread any Cultures to the British Isles. You need to have a province that is of the culture you want to spread next to the province you want said culture. This doesn't work over water. This means that the British Isles are limited to the cultures there at the time. The English Melting pot event chain is the only way the English culture appears too.

The whole kingdom-creation mods or whatever seem just pointless complications anyhow. We can just take existing king titles if you need them. Sure, it'll be slow, but be a man.

I don't know if you noticed, but we have three players in England. Yeah, I don't think we can all be the King of England.

Kingdoms Abound DL link for Twiggie.

[Digital Hellhound]

I'm not talking about the Kingdom of England title. There are three (or more?) king titles in the British Isles, and anyone else can just take their owns from the continent.

[Johnfalcon99977]

I'm not talking about the Kingdom of England title. There are three (or more?) king titles in the British Isles, and anyone else can just take their owns from the continent.

2. Your Capital and land MUST be in the British Isles. This does not mean that you CAN'T expand outside of the Isles, but you still need to be centered around Britannia.

Nope.

[mainiac]

Except you can't spread any Cultures to the British Isles.

And why does that require a MTTH that's 10 times faster and flips vassal culture?  If you are going to make an event to flip the channel problem then make it work by the same rules as the normal culture spread.

[Johnfalcon99977]

Except you can't spread any Cultures to the British Isles.

And why does that require a MTTH that's 10 times faster and flips vassal culture?  If you are going to make an event to flip the channel problem then make it work by the same rules as the normal culture spread.

Are you not listening to me? I just said the Normal Cultural Converstion rules don't allow culture spread to provinces not connected to them. I can't spread my culture normally. Islands can't get any new cultures spread to them. The English culture is the only way I can make my vassals not hate me because foreigner.

You also have to keep in mind that this only happens to people with Norman leiges. The English Culture events don't happen to Saxon lords if someone triggers it. Chances are, I'm not going to expand outside of the area I want, and the area I want is not all of England. Not everyone wants to conquer everything, ans some people are just content with trying to keep a small kingdom together.

[mainiac]

Yes, so make an event to spread the culture you want WITH THE NORMAL MTTH that DOES NOT FLIP VASSALS FROM SAXON.  If you want to play the invader then it doesn't make sense for you to be the one with the homefield advantage.

[Heron TSG]

I'd like to join, if I can halt those pesky .dll errors and I can make the session times. (most days work.) I'll play that northernmost land that I can't quite read the name of.

[mainiac]

After thinking things over I've decided to lay claim to munster.

[Digital Hellhound]

I see. There aren't nearly enough duchies for everyone in the British Isles, though. Can you make, say, a kingdom of three duchies from the continent and your primary duchy in the British Isles?

[mainiac]

Do we have a checksum yet?

[Digital Hellhound]

Err, are you sure the replacement event file you posted is the one without the kingdom of england requirement? It seems to my untrained eye that it still requires the top liege to be the Kingdom of England or the Kingdom of Lancaster.

And again, how are you going to host this? Do you intend to use Hamachi?

[Johnfalcon99977]

I see. There aren't nearly enough duchies for everyone in the British Isles, though. Can you make, say, a kingdom of three duchies from the continent and your primary duchy in the British Isles?

Looking at the De-Jure Duchies, I think 4 duchies is enough. Your going to have to work a bit to get enough Duchies, but you don't need to conquer everything.

Err, are you sure the replacement event file you posted is the one without the kingdom of england requirement? It seems to my untrained eye that it still requires the top liege to be the Kingdom of England or the Kingdom of Lancaster.

I'm not very good at coding, and it was meant to be a quick fix. It didn't seem like anyone else was going Norman >.>

As for hosting, I don't know yet, and I don't have a Hamachi Server to host.

Yes, so make an event to spread the culture you want WITH THE NORMAL MTTH that DOES NOT FLIP VASSALS FROM SAXON.  If you want to play the invader then it doesn't make sense for you to be the one with the homefield advantage.

Oh my god. I do I look like I know how to fucking code? And you should also look at the MTTH for Cultural converstion: With a Normal Stewardship skill, it takes 1200 months, or 100 years. It gets even worse if you have bad Stewardship. That means I would be getting 1 English province every Hundred years. Yeah, I don't think thats very fair to me.

Here, how about this: In order to make it equal, code in something which makes English-to-Saxon as fast as Saxon-to-English. There, problem solved.

[Twiggie]

Why don't you just make it only trigger in your provinces, if your ruler is norman and if your ruler is a king?

[mainiac]

100 years.

Yeah... same as everyone else.

If you want a coder to provide cultural shift events for the isles I'd be happy to oblige.  I'd just like to have a good reason why we actually want such changes.