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[The Mechanical Man]

Nice thread!

Keep in mind with IL-2 there are loads of difficulty options that you can turn on and off. The realism is very customizable, so you can make it just as noob-friendly or hardcore as you want it to be.

[Anvilfolk]

Just thought I'd drop some really nice footage of very good aiming by iLOVEwindmills

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UHtgeKAork

[BuriBuriZaemon]

Digital Combat Simulator: Blackshark and Warthog are on discount on Steam.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/61010/

http://store.steampowered.com/app/61000/

What do you guys think about them?

[Geen]

Wings of Prey is good, but outside of the (near impossible) realistic mode the AI tends to be retarded pansies who refuse to shoot back.

[Anvilfolk]

The DCS series is a different kind of breed. They're really modern systems, which amounts to doing more button pressing than actually doing up and close fighting.

For instance, I watched a 10+ minute video on youtube on how you should use infra-red instead mode of terrain estimation mode (or whatever the names were) when setting target location for self-guided bombs because if you use terrain estimation while at an angle you might not be pointing at the truck, but at the terrain behind it.

This was for DCS Warthog. Haven't tried Blackshark but am considering getting it.

Still, like I said, they're different kinds of beasts. Much more indirect combat, and all about knowing all of the intricacies of each weapon's deployment options and systems. Manual's huge, and is also a big must. Super interesting though.



Wings of Prey... meh. I tried it, and it was far too arcade. Near impossible odds are IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 on the Full-Real servers At least for me, but I suck

[vagel7]

So I have a joystick now. A Logitech X3D. Is it just me or are american Il-2 planes very unstable?

[JWNoctis]

Haven't had much experience with IL-2, sadly...

But Falcon 4.0 with its various incarnations like Allied Force, OpenFalcon, FreeFalcon and BMS does deserve a mention. Good simulation of a combat aircraft in an theater of war, with good graphics, especially if you're running BMS or FF and willing to choke up some dollars for some hi-resolution payware ground tiles. BMS is stone solid, and has an absolutely gorgeous 3D pit, while FF has *some* better effects, more flyable aircrafts and theaters.

Neither are as accurate nor as beautiful as DCS, but still good enough to be competitive. All but AF are free, but BMS and OF needs the original Falcon 4.0 disk, or at least the executive file to install, for verification purposes.

[Anvilfolk]

The high performance airplanes are all fairly unstable. Most people find WW2 planes unstable in general! If you want a VERY forgiving plane to fly, try the A6M Zero, any variant. You can haul back a TON on that plane, and it still won't stall. A wonder to fly

I don't really like the "fire and forget" nature of modern air combat, and they require a lot of up-front investment to get some fun out of it, which is why I haven't dedicated myself more to Falcon etc. WW2's my cup of tea anyway, but I've only heard wonders about Falcon

P.S. IL-2 Sturmovik. 1946 is on sale at GoG.com for $5, which is better than the Steam deal.

[BuriBuriZaemon]

P.S. IL-2 Sturmovik. 1946 is on sale at GoG.com for $5, which is better than the Steam deal.

Thanks for pointing this out! Can I activate it on Steam?

[Anvilfolk]

I don't think so. The thing about it though is that you need to manually download and patch the game anyways, so it really won't make a difference where you get it from!

[BuriBuriZaemon]

Bought it! Now where is that joystick that I ordered a week ago...

[JWNoctis]

P.S. IL-2 Sturmovik. 1946 is on sale at GoG.com for $5, which is better than the Steam deal.

Thanks! Hope it lasts until till I could get to a computer!

[vagel7]

For the moment I am quite happy with my Bf-109. 3 missions and 1 kill and that kill is from colliding with the plane, I am a bad shot in a plane.

[Anvilfolk]

IL-2 is on sale for another 3 days, I think, so it's all good

Welp, you'd better get downloading stuff while you are waiting!

Download:
- Patch 4.10
- Patch 4.10.1
- Patch 4.11
- Patch 4.11.1

There's also a megapatch that installs 4.10.1 directly from 4.09m and previous (you'll have to register on the website).

Here is the situation:
Many full-real servers like Warbirds of Prey (my personal favourites) are using Ultrapack 3.0RC4, which runs on top of a 4.10.1 installation. There are instructions on how to get a working UP3.0 RC installation.

There's a newer, more active modpack called HSFX6.0 that runs on top of the 4.11.1 patch. I'm not sure how many servers use it online. Either way, here's a link to a 4.11.1 megapatch + HSFX6.0 download.

Patch 4.11.1 adds a couple new planes (made moot if you install modpacks), but also much better AI, so it might be worth getting for the offline.

What people usually do is keep several installations on the same computer. Keep a vanilla 4.10.1 installation, then copy it over, then install a modpack over the copy.



Vagel7, what are you playing exactly? Dynamic 109 campaign?

[vagel7]

Yep, dynamic 109 campaign.