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EU Parlament vote strikes ACTA down
« on: July 04, 2012, 03:23:32 pm »

Eayup, you heard me. It's been a long time since I've been made very happy by something the EU did, but this time they managed to do the right thing, and for the right reasons. The vote against was 478-39, and as far as I understand, this practically spells the end of ACTA within the Union. Now we rejoice! And hope they don't manage to sneak it back in some way.

I was going to going and post an English source for you, but my bus stop is coming up and I'm one of those people who can't walk and phone at the same time, so I hope you'll forgive me for that one.
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Re: EU Parlament vote strikes ACTA down
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2012, 03:55:00 pm »

Dont forget about TPP, and this, though.
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Re: EU Parlament vote strikes ACTA down
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2012, 05:17:24 pm »

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Re: EU Parlament vote strikes ACTA down
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2012, 05:18:07 pm »

So... whats the point of this EU parliament if someone else can enact a law the EU Parliament shoots down in majority?
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Re: EU Parlament vote strikes ACTA down
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2012, 05:45:31 pm »

So... whats the point of this EU parliament if someone else can enact a law the EU Parliament shoots down in majority?

The EU Parliament only decides over the EU, of course. Unless you're referring to the link above; the commissioner is not going to make someone else enact it, just re-submit it for a new vote in the Parliament.
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Re: EU Parlament vote strikes ACTA down
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2012, 06:10:10 pm »

And it will fail horribly again and again no matter how many times he tries, even if the EU court rules that it would be theoretically legal (we don't care if it's theoretically allowable - we just don't want it).  It was hardly a narrow loss that a bit of campaigning and luck in the next elections could solve - it was a crushing defeat.  ACTA is thoroughly dead in the EU, and it's doubtful whether the entire act can survive with such a crucial signatory gone.
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Re: EU Parlament vote strikes ACTA down
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2012, 06:17:00 pm »

So... whats the point of this EU parliament if someone else can enact a law the EU Parliament shoots down in majority?

The EU Parliament only decides over the EU, of course. Unless you're referring to the link above; the commissioner is not going to make someone else enact it, just re-submit it for a new vote in the Parliament.
Ah, I suppose I should have finished reading the article, got side-tracked... heh.
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Re: EU Parlament vote strikes ACTA down
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2012, 10:47:04 pm »

Apologies if this has been posted before:

I highly recommend reading the google document in the following link: http://infojustice.org/washington-declaration

I recommend reading the whole thing as it's exceptional and worth your time and support in my opinion.

You can sign the Declaration via the window on the left after the Google doc and left of the most recent signatories.

In the entire thing there was not a single thing I disagreed with after a single read; and that's coming from someone who also produces my own music. The document actually covered me (and offered many solutions to problems I personally face as my own producer/artist/label, such as an optional database of artists and their work to counter someone from claiming my work is an anonymous work) and it sounds more than reasonable in every way.

While that's a minor thing to everyone who isn't in a similar position as me, the declaration addresses the a great deal of the concerns of many people who, like myself, are anti-ACTA and SOPA (and likely the rest of the recent [plus in my opinion what I consider grossly incompetent, bungled, and corrupt] attempts at international IP law)

The document offers solutions (that I consider to be fair) to many of the issues and unfairness-es known to plague recent attempts at IP law, including and notably, respecting less developed nations and the effect IP laws have on them.

I also recommend spreading the word if you agree with it. It's a very fine Declaration and people deserve to learn of it's existence.


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Re: EU Parlament vote strikes ACTA down
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2012, 11:46:06 am »

I don't know about that declaration. It seems devoid of content and/or horribly vague.
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Re: EU Parlament vote strikes ACTA down
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2012, 06:43:14 am »

No it isn't. It's a declaration silly, it's not intended to do something; it's a statement. It's saying 'This is how the internet and the other stuff we talk about should be, so try to make your laws around this guideline if you want it to be acceptable'
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Re: EU Parlament vote strikes ACTA down
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2012, 08:05:38 am »

In that case, it's nice.
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Re: EU Parlament vote strikes ACTA down
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2012, 10:43:13 am »

afaik, he's belgian.

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Re: EU Parlament vote strikes ACTA down
« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2012, 01:56:23 pm »

Just don't forget to sight it in- you'd sure look like a dork if you drew a laser over his eye and still managed to miss.

Of course, an assassination of character might be more in order, and he pretty much seems to be helping that along himself.
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Re: EU Parlament vote strikes ACTA down
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2012, 09:48:10 pm »

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