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[That Wolf]

Im not pretenting to know anything.
Yes I clearly realise it is criminally insane.
Its like if vampires exsited, I would also want to help them die.
It isnt the truth.
You have to decay. Its a law.
Im sorry if the truth offends you.
I agree lies often taste so sweet that they become a delicacy.

But if vampires exist it means that we are wrong about several fundamental aspects of the universe.

Oh yeah, didnt look at it that way. Mainy used it as an example while you built upon it.

What I said relates to this universe and these bodys
I never said you cannot exisit forever.
Because we do last forever. Another unspoken law

[That Wolf]

Yeah there is leway on that one, like how you cant hold negative matter stable next to positive matter as they cancel eachother, but you could see that as more of a change into what we dont understand yet.

I enjoy these talks, even if they get borderline flaming. Something I never intend, but the internets take offence at anything.

[TheDarkStar]

Reading through the wikipedia article, we're still not sure if the Big Rip will occur because we don't know exact enough values for some things relating to Dark Energy.

Back to the original topic, the only way to avoid the heat death of the universe would be to get out of it in some way. Unfortunately, we don't know if that's possible.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

Isn't another theory that the universe wil continue to expland forever? And it will just die because everything is so far apart

[Sergarr]

Isn't another theory that the universe wil continue to expland forever? And it will just die because everything is so far apart

I'm sure that in 100 years our view of universe's future will completely change and people from that age will consider us stupid for even believing this.

Isn't another theory that the universe wil continue to expland forever? And it will just die because everything is so far apart

That's what I'm on about. As it expands more dark energy is created, which accelerates the expansion further.

And there might be a way to reverse entropy or get rid of dark energy that we don't know about yet.

The more interesting thing about entropy is that it cannot be defined for universe as a whole. Entropy only makes sense about an object in relative equilibrium, and universe is not in equilibrium with itself. It never was.

[scrdest]

internets take offence at anything.

Oh, those silly internet people, being offended at someone ADMITTING TO WANTING TO MURDER PEOPLE FOR LIVING TOO LONG. Some people are just too thin-skinned, eh? So silly.

[scrdest]

Well, he's not incorrect. If you say something you'll find SOMEONE on the internet that takes exception to it.

In itself, it would be an observation. In context, it has a bit different connotations.

Yeah there is leway on that one, like how you cant hold negative matter stable next to positive matter as they cancel eachother, but you could see that as more of a change into what we dont understand yet.

TIL: we don't understand electromagnetic radiation.

[Il Palazzo]

The more interesting thing about entropy is that it cannot be defined for universe as a whole. Entropy only makes sense about an object in relative equilibrium, and universe is not in equilibrium with itself. It never was.

Can you elaborate? I don't get your meaning.

negative matter

What?

[Arx]

This is unrelated to the current discussion, but interesting:

Shell shock is different to PTSD, and possibly more common.

Basically, exposure to blast waves can cause brain damage with symptoms simply to those of PTSD but with a few key differences.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

This is unrelated to the current discussion, but interesting:

Shell shock is different to PTSD, and possibly more common.

Basically, exposure to blast waves can cause brain damage with symptoms simply to those of PTSD but with a few key differences.

That wasn't something people knew?
I didn't read the article for specifics, I just thought people already knew the two were seperate since one is from traumatic events,emotional scaring, etc and the other is specifically named for being near exploding shells

[Arx]

Well, I didn't know and it looks like the US Army didn't know, at least when they were dealing with IEDs.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

Sorry if that came across as (passive agressive? Angry?) it was meant to be slightly confused
No need to be sorry

[Arx]

No worries. I don't actually understand all the history there, so...

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

The history of shell shock?

This entire spoilers part of this post is IIRC

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In WW1 when exploding ordnance was first used in extremely extensive fighting with the same people exposed to it for long periods of time (because you sure as hell aren't running out of that trench when there is constant artillery fire outside and I believe that the longest constant shelling during WW1 was 48 hours straight I think) many people were exposed to the concussive effects of explosives. As we all know, artillery shells are used to either blow something up throw shrapnel everywhere or both, they also cause conclusive damage to people within range. So someone can survive a close encounter with artillery shells without taking any external damage (ex: shrapenel taking your arm off) but you will take concussive damage. This affects the nervous system and brain (not sure if people seperate those two or not) making the victims (this is in the field immediately after or within a short time period of exposure) shakey, edgy, unable to pay attention to anything, and in some cases to scared to move. This concussive blast can also cause internal bleeding leading to other problems. So these symptoms became known as shell shock because people who were around exploding shells experienced severe shock.

[Sergarr]

The more interesting thing about entropy is that it cannot be defined for universe as a whole. Entropy only makes sense about an object in relative equilibrium, and universe is not in equilibrium with itself. It never was.

Can you elaborate? I don't get your meaning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_death_of_the_universe#Current_status

"There is much doubt about the definition of the entropy of the Universe. In a view more recent than Kelvin's, it has been recognized by a respected authority on thermodynamics, Max Planck, that the phrase 'entropy of the Universe' has no meaning because it admits of no accurate definition"