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Author Topic: SCIENCE, Gravitational waves, and the whole LIGO OST!  (Read 516422 times)

alway

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Re: SCIENCE and the Higgs!
« Reply #150 on: July 08, 2012, 09:25:41 pm »

IIRC, there actually has been something experimental related to time-travel through a variation of quantum entanglement. However, it still follows all the rules so to speak. Thus while the two events' outcomes are tied together, it can't actually give any information or something like that (I didn't read much into it, but it should be out there somewhere if you can dodge the quacks shouting about their miracle snake-oil from the future which binds our consciousness to aliens in another universe or something).

Edit: here it is; mathematical, though not experimental yet it seems.
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/01/timelike-entanglement/
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Re: SCIENCE and the Higgs!
« Reply #151 on: July 09, 2012, 08:01:01 am »

I take comfort in the realisation that somewhere, there are aliens that can't comprehend savanna.


Hehe, they'd have reverse scuba swimsuits.
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Re: SCIENCE and the Higgs!
« Reply #152 on: July 09, 2012, 09:26:51 am »

I take comfort in the realisation that somewhere, there are aliens that can't comprehend savanna.


Hehe, they'd have reverse scuba swimsuits.
Reminds me of the book "Heaven", by Ian Stewart and Jack Cohen (or vice-versa).  Not only reverse-scuba-gear, but also a reverse boat being used by the same species.  ("Sails" on the interface between ocean and atmosphere, rather than on the interface between atmosphere and ocean.  IYSWIM.)

They're the guys who also did the actual sciencey bits of "The Science Of Discworld" (and tSoD2 and tSoD3).  And a rather interesting book called Wheelers.  Jack is a specialist of note, in particular, in visualising (and justifying) non-anthropomorphic aliens, of all kinds.  And with all kinds of 'biologies' behind them.

But that's probably even less to do with bosons than time-travel is.  Just thought it worth noting, in passing.
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Re: SCIENCE and the Higgs!
« Reply #153 on: July 09, 2012, 09:56:50 am »

Good science fiction is ALWAYS note worthy.

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Re: SCIENCE and the Higgs!
« Reply #154 on: August 01, 2012, 03:56:17 pm »

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Re: SCIENCE and the Higgs!
« Reply #156 on: August 03, 2012, 08:09:44 pm »

So.. totally useless fucking particle for anything else than masturbating the ego's of quantum physics socalled "scientists"?
I mean, we cant cure all cancer with a higgs boson, we cant even make massless material. Nothing.

Just another useless brick. Like discovering what kind of colour that was your great grandma's favorite, just as useful.

OR

Did i miss anything?
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Re: SCIENCE and the Higgs!
« Reply #157 on: August 03, 2012, 08:26:26 pm »

So.. totally useless fucking particle for anything else than masturbating the ego's of quantum physics socalled "scientists"?
I mean, we cant cure all cancer with a higgs boson, we cant even make massless material. Nothing.

Just another useless brick. Like discovering what kind of colour that was your great grandma's favorite, just as useful.

OR

Did i miss anything?

Please read through the entirety of this article.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-ridiculous-things-people-believe-about-god-particle/
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Re: SCIENCE and the Higgs!
« Reply #158 on: August 03, 2012, 08:27:20 pm »

Just gonna leave this here.

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Re: SCIENCE and the Higgs!
« Reply #159 on: August 03, 2012, 08:57:19 pm »

Remember that completely pointless parlour trick, electricity?  I can't believe so many scientists wasted their lives on that fucking useless phenomenon.
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Re: SCIENCE and the Higgs!
« Reply #160 on: August 03, 2012, 09:00:44 pm »

The Higgs, and the properties of it, is important because it shows where our current understanding of physics is more accurate, and where it is less accurate. And whenever we find our current understanding of physics to be off by a bit, it is a precursor to discovery. It lets us know where new theorycrafting is needed to explain that which is not adequately explained. When those new theories explaining the new phenomena are created, then it's a waiting game for more experimental data showing where they are right and where they are inadequate.

Take relativity for example. Newtonian mechanics were shown to be incomplete because they could not explain a pair of phenomena which had been observed:
A. The speed of light was finite
B. The speed of light was the same regardless of observer's velocity
None of the known laws could explain how this could be; if you speed up, light should slow down relative to you, as per their understanding of how velocity worked. And so, after pondering on those for a while, Einstein eventually figured out an extension of known physics whose effects would both explain the new phenomena while also containing the explanation for previously known phenomena (for low energies and such, relativistic physics is nearly indistinguishable from Newtonian physics).
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Re: SCIENCE and the Higgs!
« Reply #161 on: August 03, 2012, 09:50:20 pm »

The Higgs Boson is vital to understanding how things have mass. It doesn't even directly have anything to do with quantum physics.

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Re: SCIENCE and the Higgs!
« Reply #162 on: August 03, 2012, 11:38:08 pm »

Pff. Science. Like that's ever given us anything useful. :P
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Re: SCIENCE and the Higgs!
« Reply #163 on: August 03, 2012, 11:49:18 pm »

Agreed. I'm quite happy with my magical internet and computer which is run on the screams of the damned.

Black magic gives me all these wondrous things. What have YOU done, science?!
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Re: SCIENCE and the Higgs!
« Reply #164 on: August 03, 2012, 11:53:26 pm »

All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what has Science done for us?
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