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Author Topic: SCIENCE, Gravitational waves, and the whole LIGO OST!  (Read 516566 times)

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Re: SCIENCE, Gravitational waves, and the whole LIGO OST!
« Reply #4650 on: January 06, 2017, 04:15:32 am »

And it's really not ever going to be a significant way to deal with CO2 unless you can find a use for billions of tons of baking soda per year.
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« Reply #4651 on: January 06, 2017, 09:52:56 pm »

So I'm not sure if that's a joke or not, but it seems that there is already some progress into SC2 version of AlphaGo, or at least it's called as such. The micro displayed there is certainly quite insane, that's for sure.
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Re: SCIENCE, Gravitational waves, and the whole LIGO OST!
« Reply #4652 on: January 13, 2017, 12:20:14 am »

Sorry for double-posting, but this is quite... interestingly horrifying: Killer Mice Show Where Hunting Instinct Starts in the Brain

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Researchers have transformed normally timid lab mice into snapping, super-efficient killers by manipulating circuits in the brain's "fear center" — the amygdala.

Their findings show just where the predatory mechanism comes from in the brain, and show that, in mice, anyway, it links the muscles of the jaw, shoulder and forelimb. They work together to create a fast and efficient pounce.

It creates a somewhat horrifying scenario but sheds light on precisely where in the brain hunting skills are centered. It's a mechanism common to all higher animals, including humans.

The team used a technique called optogenetics to control the mice. It involves genetically modifying specific brain cells using a virus, and then employing a laser to activate the neurons.

Once they'd homed in on the correct circuit, the transformation was instant, the team reports in the journal Cell.
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"We'd turn the laser on and they'd jump on an object, hold it with their paws and intensively bite it as if they were trying to capture and kill it," said Ivan de Araujo, an associate professor of psychiatry at the Yale University School of Medicine, who also works at the nearby John B. Pierce Laboratory.
Here's a movie of how exactly that thing works.

tl;dr: Scientists have created a virus that genetically modifies mice's brain cells, and those cells then can be activated with a laser, turning normal docile mice into killer mice instantly. A remote control wire, so to say.

Thankfully the laser fibers still need to be implanted directly into the mice's brains in order for this to work - you can't just mass infect people and then control them with a laser pointer... still, this shows that there is real fucking potential for making genetically modified remotely controlled soldiers without free will out of normal human beings.
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Re: SCIENCE, Gravitational waves, and the whole LIGO OST!
« Reply #4653 on: January 13, 2017, 12:22:42 am »

That is horrifying.
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« Reply #4654 on: January 13, 2017, 12:27:02 am »

That *is* disturbing! What can I do?


More seriously, no, it isn't
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« Reply #4655 on: January 13, 2017, 12:29:46 am »

If you really wanted to cause a rage apocalypse you'd probably be better off dropping an aerosol drug bomb.
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« Reply #4656 on: January 13, 2017, 12:34:30 am »

If you really wanted to cause a rage apocalypse you'd probably be better off dropping an aerosol drug bomb.
Or bring down internet access for a couple of days
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« Reply #4657 on: January 13, 2017, 02:16:00 am »

Or make a controversial statement in front of a crowd with mixed political ideologies.
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« Reply #4658 on: January 13, 2017, 02:46:08 am »

How many of these killer mice would I need to take down a human?

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« Reply #4659 on: January 13, 2017, 02:51:48 am »

First we need to determine how many kindergartners it would take to kill this particular human. After discovering this number, divide by the body weight of the mice.
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« Reply #4660 on: January 13, 2017, 08:18:07 am »

I got as far as "amygdala" before my mind jumped instantly to River Tam. Now I'm picturing a lone mouse taking out hordes of rage-mice all by herself.

I probably shouldn't read science threads at five in the morning...
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« Reply #4661 on: January 13, 2017, 06:43:12 pm »

Oh great, now we've got another handwavium excuse for zombie flicks.
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« Reply #4662 on: January 13, 2017, 08:39:09 pm »

First we need to determine how many kindergartners it would take to kill this particular human. After discovering this number, divide by the body weight of the mice.

divide by the body weight of the mice.

This part of the formula seems ambiguous, do we divide by their weight in grams or kilograms?

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« Reply #4663 on: January 13, 2017, 08:42:11 pm »

Our error risk is too great here, incinerate the subjects and do the calculation by the kcal output instead.
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« Reply #4664 on: January 13, 2017, 08:50:31 pm »

This part of the formula seems ambiguous, do we divide by their weight in grams or kilograms?
Neither, those being mass measurements. It's probably more a choice between newtons or dynes...
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