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[BorkBorkGoesTheCode]

Not really. You can send intelligible messages, but mind control is not possible.
Using microwaves to communicate in this manner is potentially dangerous for the receiver if you don't carefully control the microwave energy and exposure time, and it is an invasion of privacy on a fundamental level. Do not do it.

I'm hearing lots of reasons to try it

• Potentially dangerous

You can cause brain damage with the level of microwaves needed to perfectly simulate speech.

[Execute/Dumbo.exe]

Not really. You can send intelligible messages, but mind control is not possible.
Using microwaves to communicate in this manner is potentially dangerous for the receiver if you don't carefully control the microwave energy and exposure time, and it is an invasion of privacy on a fundamental level. Do not do it.

I'm hearing lots of reasons to try it

• Potentially dangerous

You can cause brain damage with the level of microwaves needed to perfectly simulate speech.

Shit man, why are you trying to convince us more? We're already sold on the idea*!
*We're just joking around, no-one here would actually do something like that.

[MarcAFK]

Shit, I have two microwaves and a brain I barely use anyway, I smell a new YouTube series in the making. Actually I have a feeling I'll be smelling all kinds of strange and unusual things soon.

[Loud Whispers]

Shit, I have two microwaves and a brain I barely use anyway, I smell a new YouTube series in the making. Actually I have a feeling I'll be smelling all kinds of strange and unusual things soon.

Hear any vuvuzela messages?

[Starver]

Hear any vuvuzela messages?

I don't.  I just get this persuasive, sepulcheral voice insistently telling me to not stab people, all the time...  My doctor's refusing to prescribe anything.

[TheDarkStar]

Hear any vuvuzela messages?

I don't.  I just get this persuasive, sepulcheral voice insistently telling me to not stab people, all the time...  My doctor's refusing to prescribe anything.

Under no circumstances should you become a surgeon, medieval soldier, or coroner.

[LordPorkins]

This reminds me of a quote from the Suicide Squad Trailer


Harley Quinn: "The voices in my head are telling me to kill everyone here."
Military Dudes/Redshirts: "…"
HQ: "Just Kidding! Thats not what they said!"

[Loud Whispers]

On that note, who here would be willing to give up their individuality in exchange for becoming one with a vuvuzela hive mind that inhibits murderous tendencies against the greater self

[TempAcc]

I rather like my murderous tendencies, even though they can't be realized.

Most of the time, at least.

[LordPorkins]

Im already possessed by an Elder God, so sorry, I'm out.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

On that note, who here would be willing to give up their individuality in exchange for becoming one with a vuvuzela hive mind that inhibits murderous tendencies against the greater self

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[BorkBorkGoesTheCode]

There are many problems with that idea, guys. First of all, E=MC². Energy is mass times the speed of light squared. More to the point, energy is mass. You can't have energy without mass, except for apparently photons. If this were possible, anyway, the items in question would be useless. With no inertia, simply touching one would send it off at literally infinite speeds. Acceleration is equal to force divided by mass... which is zero in this case. If it took up volume and not space, it wouldn't be effected by gravity, and you'd have a hell of a time trying to keep it in one place. Low mass might be cool, but no mass brings a whole world of problems.

+1.

The only reason they are saying light has no mass because of some theories on time travel/4th dimension of some kind. On the other hand, we have solid proof that particles of light have inertia and the speed of natural light is finite. It behaves like normal matter in every conceivable way (albeit rather extremely) until they tried to add a 4th dimension or time travel to the mix, neither of which has hard proof. Given this, I see no reason why faster than light travel is not possible. Granted, that would take massive amounts of energy, but possible nonetheless. Also, infinity cannot be treated like a number, so string theory is also bull shit. There is no evidence of black holes being infinitely small (in fact, they actually grow as they absorb more stuff). And our measurements are not nearly, even remotely accurate enough to trace all observable matter in the universe, let alone the stuff beyond what our telescopes can see, back to an Infinitesimally small point. A relatively small area, I could buy, but this is just stupid.

Ok, I'm done ranting. For now.

Granted, that would take massive amounts of energy, but possible nonetheless.

An infinite amount of energy, in fact.  Hence it's impossible.

You are either assuming that light has no mass or that light is infinitely fast. I was specifically challenging both of those points. Your argument is invalid because your assumption is the heart of the dispute. It would be more logical to talk about why your assumption is right and mine is wrong, not what each would entail if it were true. It's like saying "God exists because the bible says he does!".

cause > effect, not the other way around.

Could someone provide a link to the experiments?

[Sergarr]

I have no idea how I haven't noticed that error earlier (probably because of all the surrounding "lol light totally has mass guyz" debate), but:

There are many problems with that idea, guys. First of all, E=MC². Energy is mass times the speed of light squared. More to the point, energy is mass. You can't have energy without mass, except for apparently photons. If this were possible, anyway, the items in question would be useless. With no inertia, simply touching one would send it off at literally infinite speeds. Acceleration is equal to force divided by mass... which is zero in this case. If it took up volume and not space, it wouldn't be effected by gravity, and you'd have a hell of a time trying to keep it in one place. Low mass might be cool, but no mass brings a whole world of problems.

lol that's wrong, actually E=sqrt((MC²)²+(PC)²), where P = particle's impulse, M - rest mass, E - energy, C - speed of light. That's a formula you get almost straight out of Lorentz transformations btw, so it's pretty goddamned solid.

[Sheb]

Yeah, I think there is confusion between mass and rest mass. Rest mass is the mass you'd have if you weren't moving (and is equal to zero for photons). Now, when you're moving, you have energy, and energy is mass, so you're heavier. Since photons are always moving they have mass even though their rest mass is zero. Otherwise black holes wouldn't be a thing.

[Putnam]

"Rest mass" and "relativistic mass" are really stupid terms and just create confusion that leads to people saying dumb things like "light has mass".

"Rest mass" is mass. Invariant mass is something that certain particles have. Photons have none.

Gravity is caused by energy, not mass. That's basically all that needs to be said on that matter, it solves most problems people seem to have for some reason with light not having mass.