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Author Topic: SCIENCE, Gravitational waves, and the whole LIGO OST!  (Read 516505 times)

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« Reply #3480 on: January 27, 2016, 09:32:28 pm »

I don't know if I've rambled on in here before, but with[1] multiple[2] studies[3] utilizing carboxylic acid to make graphene oxide out of graphite, and the impasse that humanity has somehow reached with an insatiable thirst for graphene coupled with an apparent lack of ability to mass-produce it, I will reiterate the obvious.

Cannabinoids are 2-carboxylic acids. If you mix carboxylic acid with graphite, you get graphene. Hemp is amazingly cheap to grow as well as advantageous seeing as cannabis improves soil quality. You mix cannabis/hemp with graphite (don't even need to process the cannabinoids out of the plant material, seeing as hemp nanosheets are on par if not better than graphene) and you have a graphene mixture that's roughly better than anything that's been made in a lab.

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that's cool. also their is a difference between hemp and cannabis them being closely related plants but only one having the drug stuff the other being the one used in rope and such. common misconception. so presumably they would just use the normal non drug plant hemp for whatever chemical they want so its not exactly a good point to make.
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« Reply #3481 on: January 27, 2016, 09:41:41 pm »

WHAT WHY

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« Reply #3482 on: January 27, 2016, 09:42:50 pm »

Because, as I understand it, it still contains THC. It's like nutmeg, if you consume enough you well EVENTUALLY get high, it's just basically impossible to do in any practical way.
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« Reply #3483 on: January 27, 2016, 09:44:07 pm »

i guess a crafty chemist may have the tools and technique to separate it out and concentrate it?
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« Reply #3484 on: January 27, 2016, 09:47:06 pm »

Yeah but like... we're back to practicality. It's gonna be illegal to extract the THC anyway, so why not just grow weed and extract from there rather than waste ACRES of hemp?
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« Reply #3485 on: January 27, 2016, 10:05:25 pm »

i guess a crafty chemist may have the tools and technique to separate it out and concentrate it?
and one might have the tools and technique to seperate out gold/uranium/yomama from seawater

doesn't make it more economic than just going into the land and digging it out

though it does have the difference that both sea-mining and land-mining are legal
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« Reply #3486 on: January 27, 2016, 10:19:22 pm »

WHAT WHY
Have you ever wondered why they show commercials on TV specifically for cotton, not as a brand but as a fiber?

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« Reply #3487 on: January 27, 2016, 11:47:32 pm »

Yeah, those things...
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« Reply #3488 on: January 28, 2016, 03:20:23 am »

also their is a difference between hemp and cannabis them being closely related plants but only one having the drug stuff the other being the one used in rope and such. common misconception. so presumably they would just use the normal non drug plant hemp for whatever chemical they want so its not exactly a good point to make.
That's not true. Both weed and hemp fibre come from the same plant species, cannabis. Sure, there's races of cannabis that have been bred purposedly to produce more active substance, and there's races that have been bred to grow as tall as possible, with as little active substance possible, but it's still the same plant, kinda just like a yorkshire terrier and an argentine mastiff are both dogs.
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« Reply #3489 on: January 28, 2016, 04:40:12 am »

That's correct.

Remember the cannabis ban only dates to the 1930's. Without the ban, it wouldn't make any economic sense to grow two different plants. Anyone growing the plant for drugs has all this plant fiber they don't want, that's perfectly usable for ropes/cloth etc. Someone growing it for the drug but who also sold the fibrous part for cloth would have a strong market advantage over people who threw away the fibrous part.

And if you were growing it for the fiber-only, it would be pretty silly to grow the non-drug version, because the choice was between growing a plant with valuable flowers and a plant with worthless flowers, both of which produce the same usable amount of fiber. People growing the inferior version would be pushed out of the market.
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« Reply #3490 on: February 01, 2016, 07:25:02 am »

both of which produce the same usable amount of fiber.

I rather doubt that'd be the case. Breeding a plant for its buds will almost certainly cost it in other ways (as reproductive apparatus ain't cheap, metabolically; similar reason to why we use different cattle breeds for beef and milk), so you'd probably see decreased yields relative to a specialised producer. Similar story in reverse.
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« Reply #3491 on: February 01, 2016, 09:42:42 am »

both of which produce the same usable amount of fiber.

I rather doubt that'd be the case. Breeding a plant for its buds will almost certainly cost it in other ways (as reproductive apparatus ain't cheap, metabolically; similar reason to why we use different cattle breeds for beef and milk), so you'd probably see decreased yields relative to a specialised producer. Similar story in reverse.
Yeah, that's what I've been thinking too.
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« Reply #3493 on: February 11, 2016, 11:27:28 am »

Antigravity tech when?
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« Reply #3494 on: February 11, 2016, 11:51:37 am »

Inb4 big bang is observed
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