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Author Topic: SCIENCE, Gravitational waves, and the whole LIGO OST!  (Read 516110 times)

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Re: SCIENCE, the Higgs, and everything else!
« Reply #3300 on: August 08, 2015, 07:34:03 pm »

Freezing mercury bullets - for when you absolutely must kill that fucking werewolf fire elemental.
I once played a game which had freezing mercury bullets... they were frikking deadly, as in, "three-four shots erase your lifebar" deadly.
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« Reply #3301 on: August 08, 2015, 08:07:38 pm »

At that point you might as well make bullets out of Ice-9.
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« Reply #3302 on: August 08, 2015, 08:15:32 pm »

Acid bullets. Glass would keep the acid from corroding the metal jacket before firing right?
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« Reply #3303 on: August 08, 2015, 08:16:40 pm »

Doesn't matter what happens to it after firing
Just has to keep the acid from the metal before you use the bullets
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« Reply #3304 on: August 08, 2015, 08:22:06 pm »

Well it should be thick enough glass to withstand something like that. Not being fired though, that would probably instantly powderize (is that a word? :p ) it.

And the abide doesn't have to eat through the copper jacket, have you ever seen a FMJ hitting armor (like metal armor not Kevlar) the bullet IIRC tears apart or at least if it was just a copper jacket filled with sand and acid it would
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« Reply #3305 on: August 08, 2015, 08:23:52 pm »

*Reads thread*

*Realizes we're actually seriously trying to find practical ways of making acid bullets*

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« Reply #3306 on: August 08, 2015, 08:26:16 pm »

What? No that's not what we are talking about, there are just a lot of really bad typos :p
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« Reply #3307 on: August 08, 2015, 08:29:43 pm »

Well I'm sure the (sand?) would slow it's spread to the metal somewhat. Assuming the bullet is traveling supersonic (as most bullets do) there wouldn't be much time for the acid to get to the metal before it reached it's target. Unless we are using .50cal acid rounds at a mile away them that stuff might be a problem
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« Reply #3308 on: August 08, 2015, 08:50:00 pm »

Here's the big question - in what situation would this be more effective than a regular bullet? If we're going this route we might as well up the ante.
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« Reply #3309 on: August 08, 2015, 08:54:48 pm »

I honestly don't know why anyone would make them, I was just wondering if it was acctually possible to make them.
That being said I know it can't be too hard to make a thick glass vial, fill it with acid, then seal it permanently but how would someone go around coating it in copper jacket thick as a bullet's without breaking the glass?
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« Reply #3310 on: August 08, 2015, 09:01:26 pm »

Also it would probably be more practical to just use some metal that is resistant to the acid in question. If you insist on having copper as the jacket material, you could probably just coat the inside with a layer of another metal via galvanization.
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« Reply #3311 on: August 08, 2015, 09:02:58 pm »

Ah, well, probably not too hard. Probably be easier to skip the glass, though. Plate a copper sheet on one side with a nonreactive compound or something, shape and seal it with clever machining and (if necessary) a very brief application of heat, then embed the thing in a more traditional bullet-shaped jacket with lead taking up whatever void space is left in between your acid thingamajig and the jacket in order to minimize the degree to which the aerodynamics are fucked with. If your process is fast, you could probably submerge the copper sheet entirely in acid and do enough machining to make it airtight down there, since copper reacts so slowly with hydrochloric acid, so that you have zero air trapped inside.

I don't know shit about ammunition or chemistry though so take that with a metaphorical grain of salt.

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Re: SCIENCE, the Higgs, and everything else!
« Reply #3312 on: August 08, 2015, 09:31:18 pm »

... I'm just kinda' wondering why people care if the glass breaks. Glass shards mixed in with acid could only be a bonus, right? And if it breaks mid flight I... don't see how that would matter.

Though if you're going for lingering kills just stick something plaguey in 'em... pretty sure they had disease bullets worked out at some point. We've almost certainly got all sorts of wonderfully nasty stuff that'd work better in that scenario than a liquid acid, really.

E: For some fun, here's something involving modern day liquid-filled (sorta') bullets.

Also apparently there's actual mercury filled bullets out there. Hollowpoints with mercury injected, or somethin' like that. Of hilariously dubious effectiveness, though :V
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« Reply #3313 on: August 08, 2015, 09:36:22 pm »

Glass will break in a barrel. There are no chances that it will survive that kind of G force that bullet needs to tolerate.

Also, I suspect that any glass bullet will melt before leaving the gun.
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« Reply #3314 on: August 08, 2015, 09:47:00 pm »

Depends on the glass.

E: Also a bit of incidental looking around after that has shown me that people have shoved a lot of really weird shit into a gun and pulled the trigger, just to see what happens.
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