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[Putnam]

Star Trek.

[That Wolf]

"Cheaters"? What "principle"?

The "principle" of "no one gets to be better than I am"

You could put it that way, or maybe I am immortal and know humans don't deserve it?!?
No the first time it happens we will realise that no amount of techknowledgy will be able to by pass the point where a mind becomes impossibly insane and 'doesn't care about anything anymore'
Perhaps with training but that would most probably just prolong the "it was inevitable"

[Arx]

I think the point of an actual immortality pill would be to prevent the mind from breaking down. Also, source on the eventual insanity?

[Il Palazzo]

"Cheaters"? What "principle"?

The "principle" of "no one gets to be better than I am"

You could put it that way, or maybe I am immortal and know humans don't deserve it?!?
No the first time it happens we will realise that no amount of techknowledgy will be able to by pass the point where a mind becomes impossibly insane and 'doesn't care about anything anymore'
Perhaps with training but that would most probably just prolong the "it was inevitable"

Seems more like pretending to know things you don't know and willing to kill people on that basis.
Somewhere between incredibly arrogant and criminally insane.

[Descan]

I just have that guy on ignore now. What's he blabbering about now?

[That Wolf]

Im not pretenting to know anything.
Yes I clearly realise it is criminally insane.
Its like if vampires exsited, I would also want to help them die.
It isnt the truth.
You have to decay. Its a law.
Im sorry if the truth offends you.
I agree lies often taste so sweet that they become a delicacy.

[Arx]

There is no law saying that you have to decay. You seem to be claiming that your opinion is an objective truth, which it pretty much isn't.

[That Wolf]

There is no law saying that you have to decay.

Correct
Yet its obvious to see it if you look.

[miauw62]

It's perfectly fine to do that. Pessimism is objectively the correct way of thinking (see: the ludicrous number of fallacies related to humans being overtly optimistic).

But thinking that the problems will be overwhelming is a bit cynical.

Hm, fair enough. Maybe I was being a bit extreme.

[10ebbor10]

There is no law saying that you have to decay. You seem to be claiming that your opinion is an objective truth, which it pretty much isn't.

Not really.

In fact, the other thing is true. Just look at basic causality. Everything that causes itself to happen, happens again. Things that don't cause themselves to happen, dissappear. The very basic meaning of life, of anything really, it's defining feature, is it's ever lasting struggle against entropy.

[Arx]

Actually, a revision: there is a law saying everything must decay (2nd of thermodynamics, famously), but none saying everything must die. I cut off a full fingernail length every few months or so, but I still have fingernails. They decay, but they regrow healthily.

So, following your logic, I should rip off my fingernails when they have grown to twice the length they started at. Everything's gotta decay, and that means that you can't keep any, right?

Edit: I AM PANICKING EVEN THOUGH THE NINJA DOESN'T WANT ME TO.

[MonkeyHead]

Actually, a revision: there is a law saying everything must decay (2nd of thermodynamics, famously), but none saying everything must die. I cut off a full fingernail length every few months or so, but I still have fingernails. They decay, but they regrow healthily.

So, following your logic, I should rip off my fingernails when they have grown to twice the length they started at. Everything's gotta decay, and that means that you can't keep any, right?

Edit: I AM PANICKING EVEN THOUGH THE NINJA DOESN'T WANT ME TO.

The 2nd law only applies to closed systems. Lifeforms are not closed systems - they exchange matter and energy in both directions with their surroundings.

[Descan]

The only thing stopping me from living forever (besides the whole human life-span thing) is the eventual heat-death of the universe, and with a couple trillion years to work on it, I'm sure I'll come up with something eventually.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

The only thing stopping me from living forever (besides the whole human life-span thing) is the eventual heat-death of the universe, and with a couple trillion years to work on it, I'm sure I'll come up with something eventually.

Avoiding the many new black holes that will surely be coming into existence, making hydrogen for stars, keeping the universe from calapsing in on itself, and finding a way for your cells to die and replicate without losing that second part, or losing too much of that buffer DNA on the strands to where it majorly affects

[Neonivek]

Im not pretenting to know anything.
Yes I clearly realise it is criminally insane.
Its like if vampires exsited, I would also want to help them die.
It isnt the truth.
You have to decay. Its a law.
Im sorry if the truth offends you.
I agree lies often taste so sweet that they become a delicacy.

But if vampires exist it means that we are wrong about several fundamental aspects of the universe.