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WellBredMutt

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Mummy curse = mummy becoming The One?
« on: July 03, 2012, 09:50:35 am »
I mean... wow. I grabbed a party as a human swordsman and went tomb-exploring since I was curious about what those triangle-thingies were. The opening of the tomb was all cool and atmospheric, I managed not to lose any limbs to spinning XX-silver longswords-XX, and then I found the treasure. Needless to say, I grab everything I can use and the mummy wakes up to give me and my band a stern talking-to.

I knew there were mummy curses, and I got the whole "You feel horrible!" or whatever-the-wording-is message. But then I go to swing my sword once... and the mummy and his right hand pull off about three combat log pages worth of attacks which culminate in me getting chucked 12 tiles into a wall. I don't this what is even.

So, can anybody tell me what the technical effect of the mummy curse is? Because I can only imagine it either slows you down and makes you more tossable, or it's just a bizarre effect to go with the mummy going all super saiyan.
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Re: Mummy curse = mummy becoming The One?
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2012, 09:57:41 am »
As far as we can tell it covertly makes the RNG screw you over hard. Any attacks on you will hit more often, do more damage etc, and your legendary swordsman will miss even that no-skill rabbit like no ones business.

Seriously though, it's effects haven't been quantified yet, but they aren't pretty. Getting cursed is permanent, and blows hardcore.
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Re: Mummy curse = mummy becoming The One?
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2012, 10:10:13 am »
Wow, that's PERMANENT? Holy crap. I'll say it does more damage. I disembodied hand just threw me like the Hulk. If I hadn't just found an iron breastplate, it probably would have broken my spine.
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Re: Mummy curse = mummy becoming The One?
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2012, 10:12:52 am »
Savescum like pro while you still can. My two cents.

I don't generate mummies in my adventurer worlds anymore, simply because they're effects are permanent. You CAN get the buggers to curse your companions, but I'd you get unlucky and they go after you..... heaven help you.
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Re: Mummy curse = mummy becoming The One?
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2012, 12:54:46 pm »
Actually the effects are fully and completely quantified, by the RAWs that someone was nice enough to extract form a savegame.

Here they are:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Highlighted is the curse's effects. It adjusts your skill rolls. In fact, 20% of all skill rolls you make will have a 0% success rate. It's like rolling a d20 in DnD that has a 1 on four of it's faces. You've got a 20% chance of a critical failure on any combat moves you make, and your opponents hold a die with four '20's on it, giving them a 20% chance of a critical success on any rolls they make against you.

What happened to you, WellBredMutt, is probably that you rolled a 1 on your attack, the mummy got a free counterstrike. You also rolled a 1 to defend against that counterstrike, making it a "critical hit", pulverizing some important body function that drastically reduced your speed, or caused you to instantly pass out from pain. Then, his turn came up several times before yours did, and he used his time to reduce you to a pile of bloody goo.

Moral of the story is; stay the fuck away form mummies if you want to live.
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Re: Mummy curse = mummy becoming The One?
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2012, 05:01:09 pm »
Quote from: TheBlueSteel on July 03, 2012, 10:12:52 am
Savescum like pro while you still can. My two cents.

I don't generate mummies in my adventurer worlds anymore, simply because they're effects are permanent. You CAN get the buggers to curse your companions, but I'd you get unlucky and they go after you..... heaven help you.

Out of curiosity, how do you remove them from world gen?
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Re: Mummy curse = mummy becoming The One?
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2012, 05:52:45 pm »
Quote from: Malloy on July 03, 2012, 05:01:09 pm
Quote from: TheBlueSteel on July 03, 2012, 10:12:52 am
Savescum like pro while you still can. My two cents.

I don't generate mummies in my adventurer worlds anymore, simply because they're effects are permanent. You CAN get the buggers to curse your companions, but I'd you get unlucky and they go after you..... heaven help you.

Out of curiosity, how do you remove them from world gen?
I would like to know this. Alternatively, what would I need to do to make the curse increase my skill rolls, because I feel like cheating.
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Re: Mummy curse = mummy becoming The One?
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2012, 06:54:42 pm »
Removing them is an option in advanced worldgen, the curse itself can't be modified.
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Re: Mummy curse = mummy becoming The One?
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2012, 07:02:16 pm »
Quote from: Putnam on July 03, 2012, 06:54:42 pm
Removing them is an option in advanced worldgen, the curse itself can't be modified.
Well, that sucks.
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Re: Mummy curse = mummy becoming The One?
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2012, 07:03:10 pm »
Quote from: Putnam on July 03, 2012, 06:54:42 pm
... the curse itself can't be modified.

I beg to differ. If it's a RAW, then you can edit it; if someone could do a bit of !!SCIENCE!! on this it'd be great. I'd do it myself, but my good computer is out of commision right now.
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Re: Mummy curse = mummy becoming The One?
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2012, 07:05:45 pm »
Quote from: Megaman3321 on July 03, 2012, 07:03:10 pm
Quote from: Putnam on July 03, 2012, 06:54:42 pm
... the curse itself can't be modified.

I beg to differ. If it's a RAW, then you can edit it; if someone could do a bit of !!SCIENCE!! on this it'd be great. I'd do it myself, but my good computer is out of commision right now.

It's encrypted. It's the same thing as editing demons or bogeymen after genning the world.
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Re: Mummy curse = mummy becoming The One?
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2012, 07:49:03 pm »
Putnam is right; you can't modify the curse the game generates, because it's scripted into the save itself. At worst, it's impossible, and at best, you're going to be resorting to using DFhack, and probably writing a new plugin for it.

Although, one could end up with a replacement for the current mummy's curse through modding. I think I heard mention of a mod currently available with mummy curses included. I have no idea what that mod is or where I heard about it, but you can also try these raws:

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I'm not sure if it'll work or not, but that is a reduced-severity form of the original mummy interaction the game generates. Try pasting that (everything in the code tags) into a .txt file called "interaction_modded_mummy" in your raw/objects folder and generate a new world, I guess.
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Re: Mummy curse = mummy becoming The One?
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2012, 07:57:25 pm »
Also, in reply to thread title: He knows kung fu. Woah.
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Re: Mummy curse = mummy becoming The One?
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2012, 06:50:10 pm »
ya it lets a skelly kill you unarmed in one hit
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2012, 07:20:58 pm »
Mummies are a double bladed sword. On one hand they perma-cripple your adventurer unless you manage to stay hidden and on the run like its that labyrinth garden with the chainsaw frankenstein and dogs from Castlevania 64.

On the other you wont find such a varied and dense collection of masterwork gear anywhere else unless you are continuously raiding bandit camps. Damn good loot.
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