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[umiman]

Considering a few pages back you couldn't even figure out provincial bonuses or spend the 10 seconds to read what the morale effects meant, I hardly think you qualify to insult Hellhound's attention level.

If you're going to be a douche, please go away to another thread.

[LoSboccacc]

How that post is not consistent with what I said?
Bad, frustrating interface is bad. It boils down to expectations and the level of polish at release was at amateurish.

They even removed things! Remember when the flag had an actual wagon model?

Edit. I might have used poor wording bit if one doesn't see the basic missings things from diplomacy nor that the signature formation of the signature factuon aming other thing is broken doesn't mean the game is fine

[Digital Hellhound]

He was just making a fair observation, as far as I can see. But to clarify; the game was unpolished and had some bugs at launch, but it was hardly unplayable, which is the impression you'd get from the PcGamer comments and various forums.

[Glowcat]

TWC in particular seems to have a horde of haters who seem confused/angered by others being able to enjoy the game. Maybe my expectations were already shattered by the game industry as a whole and I can't give a shit anymore. They do seem far more willing to interact with the community and share modding information than during previous CA game releases at least.

[umiman]

I really don't think it's a particularly big issue. This is just one of those cases of an extremely vocal minority. I think this is very mild compared to what Skyrim, XCOM, Mass Effect, etc. all had to endure from their rabid fanbases.

[loose nut]

It's pretty strange though. The reception games get here tend to not entirely differ from reactions elsewhere. This disparity didn't happen with Shogun 2. But here we have a oasis from the hate cloud.

Like, with XCOM, the reaction was more like: HISS GRR DIFFERENT BAD DUMBED DOWN NO GOOD hey wait pew pew pew woot... and that was more understandable because it was an old game being revisited after a long time.

I won't be getting Rome 2 for quite some time I'm sure, but it's interesting to observe.

[krisslanza]

I really don't think it's a particularly big issue. This is just one of those cases of an extremely vocal minority. I think this is very mild compared to what Skyrim, XCOM, Mass Effect, etc. all had to endure from their rabid fanbases.

Funny thing that, when I brought that up, one guy used a forum on the official forums to claim that, because of the results of their poll that by the theory of probablity that a staggering 95% to 97% of Rome 2 players demanded Family Trees added back into Rome 2.

And also that, "Well if TWC doesn't like something, and the majority of us agree on this, it is a clear indication that the rest of the fanbase agrees. We ARE the fanbase of Total War."

Something like that.

Also many of them thing Rome 1 was the greatest game ever... if you play it modded. Vanilla is garbage, and no one should play it. Mods only. Yeaaaah.

[timferius]

I noticed that too, except on a poll regarding who has issues with the game or something. It's like no one on the internet took a basic stats course, or intro science research paper. I mean, it even has an awesome quote: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

[Chattox]

Bad, frustrating interface is bad.

He says on the Dwarf Fortress forums.

[scriver]

I would totally enjoy the family trees back. Who wouldn't? Family matters in the game. Most none-tribal factions have dynasties as.... In-faction factions. Being able to see your actual relation to people would be cooler than them just popping into existance like they do know.

[Sharp]

Yeah I don't really get the whole internal politics thing. Doesn't seem to have a huge impact apart from delaying/advancing civil wars.

[krisslanza]

I would totally enjoy the family trees back. Who wouldn't? Family matters in the game. Most none-tribal factions have dynasties as.... In-faction factions. Being able to see your actual relation to people would be cooler than them just popping into existance like they do know.

Eh, I wouldn't really care, but it wouldn't offend me if it was put back.
I tended to rate generals in use of if they were actually useful, not if they were related to someone useful. Pull your own weight, you lazy slobs! No freeloading allowed.

[umiman]

I still wish for the day CK2 gets merged into Total War somehow. Or should I say Total War gets merged into CK2.

[Mech#4]

Rome 2: Total War currently has a spot of free DLC available on Steam. It adds three horse focused barbarian races (Royal Scythia and the like) and is free to download until the 29th of October.

Rome 2: Total War: Nomadic Tribes Culture Pack:

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The Nomadic Tribes Culture Pack adds a new playable culture comprising three new playable Factions to Total War: ROME II, for use in Single or Multiplayer Campaign modes and Custom and Multiplayer battles.

The Nomadic Tribes Culture Pack enables ROME II players to take on the ancient world as the ruthless Roxolani, the independent Massagetae and the proud Royal Scythians. Accomplished raiders and legendary horsemen, the Nomadic Tribes are poised to sweep from the steppes and strike at the soft, sedentary targets of more established empires.

Defined by their independence, their excellence on horseback and their ability to swiftly assemble large armies, The Nomadic Tribes bring an entirely new cultural flavour to ROME II.

[dennislp3]

Thanks for the heads up!