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[lordcooper]

According to the devs, the map is actually significantly bigger than in the original Rome.

[Vendayn]

Oh, that will be a nice change of pace then. I honestly pictured it going the route of their other recent games they have made. A lot more focused, but nothing really epic.

Still hope they support mod makers. Because recently, it just seems like they haven't supported the modding community at all...lots of DLC...very few mods and none very epic ones.

But again, at least they are making an even bigger map. That also probably means there will be a large variety of civilizations and unit diversity. Which were my other concerns with this.

Probably could have read up on it, but being so disappointed since Empire Total War (which did have a large map, too bad modding sucked so much)...I just haven't really been interested enough to read up on any of their games. Probably would have been more informed though.

[Catastrophic lolcats]

I had an earlier post up in this thread. Which pretty much says the same thing as this post I'm making.

Not that excited to be honest. And I'll laugh so much if all this is going to be just Rome against Carthage, with another tiny map and no modding abilities. Call me cynical...but man...if the map isn't as big as Rome Total War (or close to it), with no modding abilities and a lot less civilizations (which I liked playing a large variety of civilizations in RTW)...why the heck get it at all? I'll have Rome Total War, with the huge mods and a large game map. I guess better graphics...but I would rather have a good campaign map and the ability to mod it.

You hit the nail on the head in my opinion. I said pretty much the same thing in another Total War Rome 2 thread. Basically I don't see how a game of the exact same time period with no modding support can compete with a game that came out so many years ago which has such an ironic stance for many games AND years of dedicated high quality mods. To me it seems like suicide but we'll have have to see.

Still think the Total War series should expand into different eras. The Shogun series has already shown they're willing to do smaller regions. There are just so many interesting periods in history to keep recycling over the same boring stuff. Still think the early North American colonial Indian wars would be a good period, or India/Mughal Empire.

Tangential rant about modding support.

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The lack of modding is something I just can't understand with a lot of gaming. Yes there are times you just can't include you but you should always be making an effort to support it where you can.
It's a very short-sided view for a publisher/developer to think that locking down modding will enable them to make more money off DLC sales. Modding has made good games classics and have even invented new genres. If it wasn't for modding we wouldn't have the DOTA/TD genres. You can also BUY the work of the modders and RESELL it or better yet offering the modders some internships and get content for FREE. Paradox Stuidos has so many development teams working on different games which started out being humble modders, the Hearts of Iron series might not have been continued if it wasn't for getting modders into the development team.

To me the whole idea of DLC and modding not being able to exist together is a relic of the current console/publisher control. Publishers and console companies being massively afraid of losing any small control since they might have to start to innovate and change some of their archaic business practices. I can see when the console/publishers start to lose some grip on the market and things start to get a little bit more decentralised and/or companies start to understand that piracy is an unwinnable battle, modding will boom again and data will be less locked down and constricted. This can only be a good thing for the consumer and the artform. 

[dennislp3]

Shogun 2 was disapointing because it just felt like a dumbing down of the series to make it more arcade like...

When I started and what I have played from the Total War series was the technical awe and prowess of shogun one (at its time) and then the depth and mechanics of Rome, Medieval, and then Medieval 2.

If this is just another shogun repeat, beautification and simplification, I will be upset in the utmost sense =(

[Zrk2]

I will too. Rome was amazing, but that seems to be at least partly because it was unpolished. Cataphracts, Kretans, Spartans, Scythed Chariots and Urbans were all OP, and it was AWESOME. Now I enjoy a balanced games, but certain nations simply had superior troops than others and we shouldn't be debasing that for balance.

Give me ridiculously powerful elephants and terminator like legionaries and I'll probably be content.

[TripJack]

that is one of the lamest game trailers i have ever seen

[pisskop]

No gameplay whatsoever.  Just fancy words and cutscenes.  I would be fairly content with a graphical overhaul and a significant bugfix for RTW.  Maybe add a feature or modify some stats (and realism is always a plus for me.  Ill take an immpossible to win realistic game over many 'balanced' games anyday).

[Karlito]

Here's some early alpha gameplay footage of the Siege of Carthage.

[pisskop]

Still too much Carthidge...  What about other wars/civs?  But otherwise not too crazy.  I do hope they keep it semi-real.

edit:  LOVE what they did to water, however.
edit:edit: Grafetti.  Awesome.

[warhammer651]

why so much brown and bloom?
That's my only gripe at the moment but seriously, real life does not look like that

[LoSboccacc]

I see lots of scripted stuff since what he does with the mouse seems very marginal to what happens in play

[USEC_OFFICER]

I see lots of scripted stuff since what he does with the mouse seems very marginal to what happens in play

The video had a mouse?

FAKEEDIT: Wow. It does. I didn't even notice it until now.

[Silent_Thunder]

I see lots of scripted stuff since what he does with the mouse seems very marginal to what happens in play

Watched a bit of it, and unless I missed him actually making orders, I think it's a replay of a prerecorded battle, and his mouse is just controlling the camera. That's been in since.. I want to say Rome 1 let you record battles? Might not have been untill M2 though. It's something I used to just see where things went wrong in some of my MP matches.

[LoSboccacc]

I was trying to make another point: it is not a gameplay video, it is a scripted something or a battle replay;

The oerhead feature is nice however I hope it can be used to give orders

[Karlito]

Yeah, I'm fairly certain they're commentating over prerecorded gameplay with the UI removed. It's probably still too early to see the kind of gameplay video that most of us want to see.