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[Scott Cee]

'allo.

A giant cave spider has just wandered into the caverns under my fort.
The entrance to my fort from said caverns is by way of a single, forbidden, wooden door in a rock wall I built mostly to keep trogs from getting into my mines. There are no traps around the door, because honestly, I don't really have that much experience with sending my dorfs potholing, other than using a squad disposable guys (the Jolly Cheesemakers) to try and map out the cavern, which I soon abandoned.
Having looked at the wiki, there is much Fun to be had with the GCS if I'm able to catch one.
But, if I send a dorf to try and build a trap now, I'm pretty sure it'll catch and eat him before I'm able to catch it, thus rendering it untamable OR, even more worser, it'll chase him into my fort proper.

Thoughts?

[Garath]

1: do creatures look through closed doors?

2: next time use raisable bridges as a way to seal your fort. You were just inviting building destroyers inside this way.

3: always place a couple of cage traps at places. Yes they are overpowered and a little cheaty. Which is why you use just a few at tactical places instead of covering the map, right?

[Scott Cee]

I could just kill it, possibly quite easily, since my guys are rocking full plate steel, but in an ideal world I'd have a tamed GCS (or possibly an untamed one, in a cage linked to a highly conspicuous lever, right in the middle of my noble's quarters) and a theoretically infinite source of silk.

I'll just wall off the doorway for now, trap all the access shafts up the wazoo with cages, then deconstruct the wall and hope my mason can run fast enough to get to safety.
Yeah, that might not work either since the spider might be pathing directly to that door to smash it in.

[Garath]

another one will be around in time, most likely, so don't feel sorry about killing one. When trained somewhat they are great for generating silk and immobilizing enemies

[Noobazzah]

Even megabeasts can be trapped with the help of a tame GCS. Definitely worth a little effort and a couple of cheese makers.

[Garath]

Even megabeasts can be trapped with the help of a tame GCS. Definitely worth a little effort and a couple of cheese makers.

in fact, every megabeast can be trapped. Without webs.
forgotten beasts and titans are different, but some may have web immunity actually, I think I saw spider FB with that.

[Noobazzah]

Ah, right. That's what I meant, that the trapavoid monsters can be trapped when webbed.

[Scott Cee]

I killed it, but not before it had killed my legendary swordsdwarf who went off to battle without his helmet. A Not Lasher armed with a silver scourge took it out from behind.
I am sad.

[Garath]

I killed it, but not before it had killed my legendary swordsdwarf who went off to battle without his helmet. A Not Lasher armed with a silver scourge took it out from behind.
I am sad.

did i forget to mention? yes I did

a spider will always use his biet attack on the most vulnerable part of a victim. When immobilized, this is the head. However, the spider can't bite through steel, maybe iron, very maybe bronze (science?) helmets and will continue to oblivion. Without a helmet... sorry, you sent out someone without helmet... Oh well. Lesson learned I guess, better luck next time. This has been on here and other forums more than once, I wonder if it's at the wiki

[Scott Cee]

Inod Zulbanfikod shall be remembered and, in death, act as both cautionary tale and horrible warning as to what happens when you forget to put your bucket on.

Now I'm making sure that all my frontline dorfs have their headwear specifically be steel helms. This is not going to happen a second time.