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Azated

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Having a baron
« on: June 29, 2012, 09:10:02 pm »

So, I've got this vampire. I've got her locked away in her palace at the bottom of the map, designed specifically for her tastes.

My question is: What effect would making her the baron and keeping her isolated have on my fortress, compared to making my non-vampire (and currently my mayor) a baron?

I've read up a bit on the subject, but I'm not sure how dated the information was. As far as I can tell, it won't matter who I choose. I just want to avoid doing anything stupid that might mess up my beautiful fortress.
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Re: Having a baron
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2012, 10:23:44 pm »

Appointing a vampire to be Baron can be problematic when Diplomats arrive and want to have meetings...
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Re: Having a baron
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2012, 11:02:39 pm »

There is no easy way to make sure they stay where they are when diplomats show up, they have a tendency of taking off to suck blood from the nearest sleeping dwarf.

I just rewrote the article, it shouldn't be at all dated, although the thirst messages bit was never confirmed for me.
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Re: Having a baron
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2012, 11:09:26 pm »

I usually use a vampire duke whenever possible, and find the best way is to feed them children through the airlock periodically. It's the only reason to even have children in the fort, anyway, and sweet retribution for all those parties they organize. A well fed vampire shouldn't leave when the airlock is temporarily breached to allow the diplomat or liaison in.
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Re: Having a baron
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2012, 08:03:05 am »

It used to be possible to have meetings through solid walls. Has that changed?

Alternatively, you could seal in your vamp with fortifications instead; that might work.
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Re: Having a baron
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2012, 08:36:11 am »

I'm pretty sure the liason has to path to the fort leader, somehow. So, they could, if the liason realised it.
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Re: Having a baron
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2012, 09:12:17 am »

I usually use a vampire duke whenever possible, and find the best way is to feed them children through the airlock periodically. It's the only reason to even have children in the fort, anyway, and sweet retribution for all those parties they organize. A well fed vampire shouldn't leave when the airlock is temporarily breached to allow the diplomat or liaison in.

Kinda cool, how do you make children go where you want them to ?
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Re: Having a baron
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2012, 09:52:55 am »

I usually use a vampire duke whenever possible, and find the best way is to feed them children through the airlock periodically. It's the only reason to even have children in the fort, anyway, and sweet retribution for all those parties they organize. A well fed vampire shouldn't leave when the airlock is temporarily breached to allow the diplomat or liaison in.

Kinda cool, how do you make children go where you want them to ?

if you use therapist to assign jobs to children, you could set it to be the only one to stone detailing and set a floor to be smoothed, cancel job, close door behind, open door in front to a room with a MW bed, MW roast and the best dwarven rum.... I think I've heard fairy tales like this before you know.
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Re: Having a baron
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2012, 02:49:13 pm »

A child does as it pleases.
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Re: Having a baron
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2012, 06:21:23 pm »

A child does as it pleases.
Unless you use DT and tick the 'show children' and 'activate labours on anyone' boxes.
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Re: Having a baron
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2012, 06:51:40 pm »

Using DT do force children to work makes you a dirty cheater, you know.
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Re: Having a baron
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2012, 07:17:30 pm »

Just being pedantic.
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Re: Having a baron
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2012, 08:06:41 pm »

Using DT do force children to work makes you a dirty cheater, you know.
Using DT makes you a somewhat cleaner cheater.
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Re: Having a baron
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2012, 08:18:10 pm »

So, just to clarify: The mayor still keeps his position, but he's now a completely useless noble since liaisons path to my Baron instead?
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Re: Having a baron
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2012, 08:38:04 pm »

He's not completely useless. He helps to make sure that your booze, food, and clothing stockpiles don't overflow by consuming that stuff. Also if a dwarf gets mad, they can go and yell at him which makes them happier.
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