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Waiting on the third AND fourth one

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GET WELL SOON ZYGARDE

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30 (57.7%)

Total Members Voted: 51

[Neonivek]

I mean more the fact that you have the game... then "The Good version except not really".

Now if they came out with a "The Good version" I'd be happy, but apparently they don't do that anymore.

[Sirus]

They didn't do that for the entirety of Gen6, though. You had XY and ORAS, with no Z or Delta Emerald in sight.

If you wanted to get back into the series without a "good version but not really", that'd have been the time to do it.

[Mech#4]

I don't mind these story continuation ones that much. It's pretty much two versions of, say, Crystal for Gold and Silver; new bits here and there, new story hooks in the same overworld. It makes sense in a way because Pokemon tends to create lands and not touch them again, so they can do more with a setting and those characters before moving on. The stories in Pokemon have never been all that gripping to me, though they have gotten quite a lot more thought provoking over the last 3 instalments, but I do appreciate the extra stuff. I really liked discovering the Regi-golems in Crystal using the braille system as it felt very mystery unearthing at the time with a lot of exploration and not so on rails like the main storyline.

I only recently got Pokemon Moon so I most likely won't get Ultra Sun/Moon on release. Maybe in a year from now.


I wonder if we'll see another game set in Kanto or Johto, and not a remake of Red/Blue or Gold/Silver? Re-exploring these areas, maybe seeing how they've changed if Pokemon has a timeline at all, would be a fun experience.

[Dunamisdeos]

Red/Blue and Gold/Silver were concurrent back when.

I for one would be super psyched to revisit old lands. I'm a little bored of every single new area. I think they do it more so they can introduce new pokemon every generation as a hook (which is fine).

[Akura]

Red/Blue and Gold/Silver were concurrent back when.

No, they weren't. Gold/Silver/Crystal/HeartGold/SoulSilver occurred 3 years after Red/Blue/Yellow/FireRed/LeafGreen happened. (Omega)Ruby/(Alpha)Sapphire happened a couple of months after RBY/FRLG, and D/P/P started around the second half of GSC/HGSS.

"Concurrent" means happening at the same time.

Not quite sure about the placement of Black/White, B2/W2, or X/Y, except of course that B2/W2 occurs a little later than their previous titles. SuMo occurs 15 years after RBY/FRLG.

[Dunamisdeos]

Red/Blue and Gold/Silver were concurrent back when.

No, they weren't. Gold/Silver/Crystal/HeartGold/SoulSilver occurred 3 years after Red/Blue/Yellow/FireRed/LeafGreen happened. (Omega)Ruby/(Alpha)Sapphire happened a couple of months after RBY/FRLG, and D/P/P started around the second half of GSC/HGSS.

"Concurrent" means happening at the same time.

Not quite sure about the placement of Black/White, B2/W2, or X/Y, except of course that B2/W2 occurs a little later than their previous titles. SuMo occurs 15 years after RBY/FRLG.

Oh hey, you're right.

It's been a long time. At any rate, they were directly connected, which is the important part. 

[Furtuka]

Red/Blue and Gold/Silver were concurrent back when.

No, they weren't. Gold/Silver/Crystal/HeartGold/SoulSilver occurred 3 years after Red/Blue/Yellow/FireRed/LeafGreen happened. (Omega)Ruby/(Alpha)Sapphire happened a couple of months after RBY/FRLG, and D/P/P started around the second half of GSC/HGSS.

"Concurrent" means happening at the same time.

Not quite sure about the placement of Black/White, B2/W2, or X/Y, except of course that B2/W2 occurs a little later than their previous titles. SuMo occurs 15 years after RBY/FRLG.

BW is at least 3 years after GSC and DPP, and B2W2 and XY are both 2 years after BW, and SuMo is two years after those games.

[Rolan7]

In Pokemon GO news...  Well there's a promotion for fire and ice pokemon, which is kinda meh.  Though I did get a couple more Ponytas.  Previously had only seen one.
Thing is, I got a *lot*, because in non-news...  The game is even less balanced than I thought.  Visiting family:

Spoiler: I feel like my avatar's stealth-facepalming (click to show/hide)

Whereas in my city (yeah city!) we don't even have that density downtown.  It's mainly because my hometown-area is *crazy* into Ingress, which has in-game incentives for submitting freakin everything as a "portal".  There's one lovely example where a "mural" is 7 portals...  and inside a restaurant...

I'm not exactly mad though, just flabbergasted?  Logically it makes me feel better- no wonder my dad is 5 levels ahead of me.  I'm not *just* lazy, it's that my idea of hardcore farming is to loiter at the nearby church or synagogue, each of which have three stops aaaaaalmost in range at the same time.

It was also a bit lame.  It was an Ingress meetup at the same time, 8 of us there (which lets us level the portals to max, and farm them).  We didn't move from the spot, just sat on some benches and chatted as we constantly farmed portals, pokemon, and pokestops.  Since I use GO as an excuse to walk a .5-3 miles daily, it was bizarre and kinda sad.

(To illustrate how intense and widespread Ingress play is in the area, an enemy player arrived and destroyed the portals about 30 minutes after we upgraded them.  There's a lot of weird software just for identifying situations like this and deploying players raid-style.  It honestly is like real-world WoW, which is both amazing and a bit unsettling sometimes.  For one thing, lots of people unashamedly play while driving, since the speed is less restricted than in Pokemon)

Back on point:  I'm so sorry, people in actual rural areas.  But if you suggest portals in Ingress, they'll probably get approved because there's basically no quality control, and many of those will become pokestops.

[DeKaFu]

Back on point:  I'm so sorry, people in actual rural areas.  But if you suggest portals in Ingress, they'll probably get approved because there's basically no quality control, and many of those will become pokestops.

This would be very good advice... If not for the fact that new portal submissions have been disabled since 2015.
Though I understand they're working on a system to let max-level Ingress players review portal submissions, so they might actually work through their backlog someday, and then they can reopen them and quality control will be even lower!

I hear you on the total imbalance, though. I considered myself lucky to have 6 (now 8!) widely-spaced stops in my entire town, but then there's places like in your screenshot... Struggling to balance items without enough access to stops is just not fun (tagline: Gotta catch a few of 'em!), so hearing people casually talking about throwing away hundreds of Pokéballs is almost painful.

I am enjoying the event, though. Biggest score has been several Houndours (usually nonexistent here, and they don't hatch from eggs), though I also nabbed my first Sneasel last night. The Cyndaquils are also nice, seeing as I'd previously only hatched one and never seen one wild.

Also, heads up that gyms are going to be closing soon for an undetermined length of time leading up to a major gym rework. Defending Pokémon will be sent home. Apparently some sources leaked tomorrow (the 16th) as the closure day, but I don't think it's been officially confirmed, and it seems like they would've announced something by now if that was the case...

[Rolan7]

Oh jeez, that's so bad.  The people who are level 16 almost all live in the cities painted with redundant portals...  Surely they'll be more responsible now, and/or help with rural areas /s

I hope the gym thing really is tomorrow!  They really need a revamp, and this is a good time for my dad and I to check them out (family trip to a remote-ish town... which he painted with portals a few years ago).

[DeKaFu]

Well, they might not have much of a choice about helping with rural areas. They can still whine about it though.

Niantic has added a warning about the gym shutdown to their support page, though nothing on social media yet... and I expect the in-game notice to show up 3 days after it happens, in keeping with tradition. Still hard to say whether it'll be later today or sometime in the next couple weeks.

[umiman]

Holy shit, I just discovered the insanity that is Magearna.



I mean, I know it's been out for awhile but I only just saw how crazy it is today.

In traditional 1v1 battles it's already pretty strong, with what basically is Moxie for special attack. But I can only imagine ludicrousness in multi-battles. What's the enemy going to do? Not die? Not kill your team?

For those who don't know, Soul Heart just gives +1 special attack for every pokemon that faints. That includes yours and the enemies. It's nuts.

Oh but wait, there's more!

This thing also has one of the best typings in fairy / steel, has really good bulky special attack stats, and has access to... wait for it... SHIFT GEAR. What the bleeding hell? Sure the attack part is completely unused but +2 speed on this thing?! Combined with the neverending +1 special attack?! Jeebus~ hold me for I may cum.

Also its moveset is amazing. Fleur cannon is by itself pretty nuts as it is. Then it has stuff like flash cannon, ice beam, focus blast, thunderbolt, etc. etc.

Basically if you fuck up and let it get shift gear + soul heart off... you're gonna be in some serious trouble.

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I would imagine if you play a lot of online multi battles or OU battles, you'd probably need some kind of counter specifically for this thing. Like, roar or whirlwind or something like that. Prankster thunder wave would probably work too (unless it was trick room Magearna).

Or some suitably tanky counters like Volcarona or something like that, preferably before it stacks soul heart even once.

[Sirus]

Hmm...how about Salazzle?

It isn't tanky, but it is fast. It also has the ability to poison things normally immune to poison. How about throwing Toxic on Magearna, then spamming fire moves?

[umiman]

Hmm...how about Salazzle?

It isn't tanky, but it is fast. It also has the ability to poison things normally immune to poison. How about throwing Toxic on Magearna, then spamming fire moves?

I dunno about toxic, since the last thing you want to do is kill this thing slowly.

Fire moves is probably the way to go though. Since you wanna kill it ASAP before it gets any buffs up. It's pretty tanky though, so you'll probably need choice specs or multiple fire blasts. Pretty doable for Salazzle. Also Salazzle is pretty squishy but it's resistant to Magearna's STAB moves so there is that.

[Akura]

Toxipex with Haze(through breeding)? Resists both of Magearna's STAB types, though it lacks supereffective attacks of its own.