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Total Members Voted: 51

[Cthulhu]

I dunno what all this stuff about hackmon battles but while we're on the subject of unorthodox moves (I guess baton pass on shell smash isn't that unorthodox but not many people I see actually do it)

I had a starmie with Reflect Type for a while.  Didn't get many forfeits but it really put people off balance.

[kilakan]

What is this pokemon PU thing you guys are talking about?  Seems neat.

[umiman]

What is this pokemon PU thing you guys are talking about?  Seems neat.

It's a battling format for Pokemon.

PU is Smogon's official lowest usage-based tier. All Pokémon that are not NU by usage and are not banned to Ubers, BL4, BL3, BL2, or BL (Borderline) can be used in PU. The current PU tier leaders are galbia and Magnemite. In addition to its subforum, PU also has a room on Pokémon Showdown! and an IRC channel.

http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/formats/pu/

It doesn't mean the Pokemon in PU are worse than the others (You telling me Gourgeist sucks bro? Dem's fighting words! Put up your leech seeds!). Just means they're less popular. I believe the name just stands for the onomatopoeia.

[Cthulhu]

Yes, it's just PU as in the pokemon there stink. 

They don't, at least not among their own.  I like the usage-tiers solution a lot.  Lots of pokemon that are objectively ass or at least outclassed by other pokemon can be top-tier threats in their own brackets.  Vivillon is outclassed by Volcarona but in NU it's a major player.

Banded Ninjask kicks ass in PU for example.  Machoke and Exeggutor were banned, along with a number of other pokemon nobody would bat an eye at in any other tier.  Klang, Drifblim, and Golduck are big-time sweepers.  Grumpig is a scary wallbreaker. 

Different tiers tend to have different metagames.  There's no magic bounce in PU so suicide leads and multiple hazard support is pretty standard, though very few teams go full hyperoffense to go with it.  The rich variety of big wallbreakers and bulky offense like Grumpig, Raichu, Gogoat, and Zebstrika also means hard stall is rare.  Most teams are balanced and bulky offense.

[endlessblaze]

oh i would also love to see a mega milotic and a mega rapidash.

[Culise]

Oh, by the bye, for those still playing XY or ORAS, Arceus cards are now available at Gamestop and EB Games as part of the whole 20th anniversary "legend every month" event.  Your deadline for picking these up will be the 24th, and the codes last through the end of November. ^_^

[Furtuka]

Niantic speaks out regarding the removal of tracking sites and recent updates. Apparently the scraper sites were causing a significant drain of resources on the servers that was getting in the way of the SA release. Also the dropped catch rate is a bug and they're working on fixing it.

[MaximumZero]

Oh, by the bye, for those still playing XY or ORAS, Arceus cards are now available at Gamestop and EB Games as part of the whole 20th anniversary "legend every month" event.  Your deadline for picking these up will be the 24th, and the codes last through the end of November. ^_^

Speaking of this, I have 10 Darkrai codes for those of you that couldn't get your hands on one. Starting on the 7th, I'm allowed to hand them out. Shoot me a pm. Standard giveaway rules apply, no brand new accounts, Bay Watchers only, et al.

[itisnotlogical]

I don't know if this has already been discussed, but apparently the gen 1 eshop releases will be able to transfer mons to Sun and Moon by way of the Pokemon Bank. I wonder what'll happen if you try to transfer a glitch Pokemon? The bugs in generation 1 have been well-known for a long time so they probably have some idea of what to do about it, but it's fun to speculate.

[Akura]

Depends. Glitch Pokemon are often the result of various variables within a given instance of a Pokemon data object being outside the normal parameters. For example, in Gen I, the variable that controls the actual species is an unsigned integer that the game can only handle well if it's between 1 and 151(I think 0 means that there is no Pokemon within that data block), and anything outside of that range(152-255) will cause problems(since only 151 Pokemon exist in the game).

Unless it's changed in later generations, and I have no reason to assume that it was, the species variable(s) coincide with the National Dex numbers(ie, 1 is Bulbasaur, etc), so if the Gen I glitch Pokemon is caused by the above example of being outside the above range - or the other way around, the glitch causes it be outside the species identifier to be outside that range, then chances are it'll create a correct Pokemon from Gen II(or even early part of the Gen III dex).


Of course, it's entirely possible that the Pokemon Bank app will simply reject glitch Pokemon outright, preventing deposit/transfer.

[Greiger]

Yea it will likely just reject them outright. Even back in firered the games had an insane number of hack checks.  I've had hacked Pokemon rejected in fire red for something as simple as the capture location not matching up with a place they can be found.  Or knowing a move they could only get by being converted from a shadow type in Pokemon XD but not having an XD location.

And the hacked pokes I made were rejected entirely in a later game, so the checks have only gotten more sophisticated.

(I am completely against hacking pokes these days)

[Akura]

Glitch != Hack. Though I think the distinction is pointless anyhow.


Picked up Arceus. Perfect IVs in Attack, Sp. Attack, and Speed. Despite that, its Defense is the highest stat.

[Cthulhu]

Yea it will likely just reject them outright. Even back in firered the games had an insane number of hack checks.  I've had hacked Pokemon rejected in fire red for something as simple as the capture location not matching up with a place they can be found.  Or knowing a move they could only get by being converted from a shadow type in Pokemon XD but not having an XD location.

And the hacked pokes I made were rejected entirely in a later game, so the checks have only gotten more sophisticated.

(I am completely against hacking pokes these days)

Why didn't they bother with that in the new one?  It's still common to see sturdy shedinjas and shit in ORAS battles.

[spümpkin]

Recently saw a video for a fan game (which has apparently been under development for 9 years) that recently finished. Was planning on doing a Nuzlocke anyway, but do you think there'd be any interest in me streaming it? I probably wouldn't go public, only qith a select few people, and it'd have to be on a skype call so I could have a mic, but I thought somebody may want to watch it.

It's called Pokémon Uranium.

[Rolan7]

Stupid thunderstorm isn't giving me pikachu. Hmmph.
(I cannot stay mad at thunderstorm)