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8 (15.4%)

I PROTECC

6 (11.5%)

Waiting on the third one

2 (3.8%)

Waiting on the third AND fourth one

1 (1.9%)

GET WELL SOON ZYGARDE

5 (9.6%)

I am a concientous objector and abstain from taking up arms

30 (57.7%)

Total Members Voted: 51

[Cthulhu]

Ah this reminds me of my Silver Days on GBC, My third LV100 was a Crobat that never left my team for any reason, it did good against everything but Red's Pikachu which utterly one-shot the fanged flurry and always outsped it, phooey.

I've only ever really liked Crobat or Tentacurel when it came to poison types, and even then I only ever used their Poison typing via the Move Toxic.

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I've been thinking I may add a Gliscor to my flying team, but is Gliscor really worth it?

Gliscor is really fucking annoying so yes.  He's immune to electric which would be good for a flying team and has a ton of viable movesets, usually revolving around being an unkillable wall but he also learns swords dance and even baton pass if you want to be a real ass.

[Sirus]

So I guess no one understood what I was asking? Tawarochir was closest, as he seems to know WHAT I was talking about.

Basically I was asking if anyone knows how to get ahold of a copy/emulation/etc. of Vietnamese Crystal. It looks hilarious and I want play it.

Well, you were quoting Vietnamese Crystal, so of course you'd be incomprehensible! 

I found -snip-

Just saying, Toady does not look kindly on sharing links to what might technically be an illegal ROM. Yes, I know it's a hilariously bad translated ROM but the base game is still Pokemon Crystal.
Might want to PM that link instead

[RekkaAtsuma]

So Gliscor can play either Defense or Offense huh? Nice.
I just really hate Gliscor's design...

But on the subject of Defense, I have Skarmory already so...is there any decent non-legend Special Defensive Flying Types? SpDef seems to be my lacking area on this team.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Togekiss perhaps? There's also Mantine if you're weird.

[umiman]

There's Noctowl but he sucks.

Like Urist said there's also Mantine but he sucks too, not as bad as Noctowl though.

There's Vespiquen but it dies to everything even though it's supposed to be a wall.

Togekiss is good.

Fan-Rotom is okay.

Sigilyph is broken under certain circumstances and useless under others.

[Sirus]

What about Snorlax, maybe? Or does he count as a legendary?

[Tawa]

What about Snorlax, maybe? Or does he count as a legendary?

Snorlax is in no way, shape, or form a legendary. I think he's OU tier if you're into that stuff.

[umiman]

I didn't realize Snorlax can fly. Holy shit.

[Tawa]

It's smash bros, man, it's always smash bros

[RekkaAtsuma]

I didn't realize Snorlax can fly. Holy shit.

Well Snorlax certainly gets around, lol.

Togekiss perhaps? There's also Mantine if you're weird.

Can a single Togekiss effectively serve dual role as both Sp Attacker and Sp Defender then?
I have a Togekiss planned but I have it more planned for Special Attack Offense  as my other Dmg Dealers are Physical.
Also, yes I know of the Flinch Kiss set but I'm not planning on using it unless it's the only way to make this work.

[Neonivek]

Snorlax is basically the exemplar of all Normal Type pokemon.

He has a huge moveset.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Snorlax used Selfdestruct!

A lot of normal types have huge movepools, they just are usually bad at using them.

[Neonivek]

Snorlax used Selfdestruct!

A lot of normal types have huge movepools, they just are usually bad at using them.

That is because most normal types are usually bad pokemon because "normal" tends to mean "animal" with a few rather notable exceptions.

[Reudh]

I didn't realize Snorlax can fly. Holy shit.

Well Snorlax certainly gets around, lol.

Togekiss perhaps? There's also Mantine if you're weird.

Can a single Togekiss effectively serve dual role as both Sp Attacker and Sp Defender then?
I have a Togekiss planned but I have it more planned for Special Attack Offense  as my other Dmg Dealers are Physical.
Also, yes I know of the Flinch Kiss set but I'm not planning on using it unless it's the only way to make this work.

You could run an attacker/defender, but there'd be little point to it. Most pokemon do best when they specialise. In Togekiss's case, you could run the old famous paraflinch hax set (thunder wave, air slash with serene grace), which would leave you with two moves for defensive means. Probably Roost, and a coverage move. Doesn't really give you much leeway - a mixed offense/defense Togekiss would suffer from 4 moveslot syndrome.

[RekkaAtsuma]

I didn't realize Snorlax can fly. Holy shit.

Well Snorlax certainly gets around, lol.

Togekiss perhaps? There's also Mantine if you're weird.

Can a single Togekiss effectively serve dual role as both Sp Attacker and Sp Defender then?
I have a Togekiss planned but I have it more planned for Special Attack Offense  as my other Dmg Dealers are Physical.
Also, yes I know of the Flinch Kiss set but I'm not planning on using it unless it's the only way to make this work.

You could run an attacker/defender, but there'd be little point to it. Most pokemon do best when they specialise. In Togekiss's case, you could run the old famous paraflinch hax set (thunder wave, air slash with serene grace), which would leave you with two moves for defensive means. Probably Roost, and a coverage move. Doesn't really give you much leeway - a mixed offense/defense Togekiss would suffer from 4 moveslot syndrome.

That's what I was afraid of, I wanted Togekiss for it's offensive options, but overall my team has a lack of Special defense outside of Togekiss. Also that said, most of my planned team members are on the physical attacking end, so Togekiss' Special Moveset was a welcome addition to the plan.
Skarmory is planned to be my Wall so I'll more likely be using Gliscor as an attacker.

The other major weakness I have is obviously Stealth Rock, so I'd need at least a decent defogger who can hold it's own.
---Well I say defog because I don't know of any decent Flying type with Anti-stealth rock methods other than Defog.