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[Culise]

So, just out of curiosity, I went and did the maths with a default Mega Blaziken set.  Since HP never changes, the only stat I actually need to track is DEF.  Modifying to include a Grass/Dragon typing and giving Mega Sceptile a bog-standard bulky tank EV distribution (max HP, max Attack or Special Attack), you need to increase DEF by 19 before you turn the OHKO into a 2KO on Flare Blitz. 

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252+ Atk Mega Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Sceptile: 357-421 (103.7 - 122.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO (+0 base DEF)
252+ Atk Mega Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Sceptile: 291-343 (84.5 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (+19 base DEF)
It's not entirely beyond the realm of possibility, but the issue is that Sceptile doesn't really have anything going for it other than the neutral Dragon STAB to counter Blaziken.  Short of a STAB max-invested, Modest Draco Meteor (which move, I might add, Sceptile doesn't presently learn, nor does the other Mega that gained a Dragon secondary type, Ampharos - it's completely limited to actual 100% Dragons and Arceus), it can't manage to get the OHKO reliably without significant increase in Special Attack, and it's highly unlikely to outspeed a Speed Boost Mega Blaziken to score the 2HKO first (especially since, remember, these are bulky EV sets, so there is no speed investment). 

Finally, it's useful to remember that this is checking Flare Blitz, since that's Blaziken's most powerful STAB, but it entirely ignores the super-effective Brave Bird.  To avoid the OHKO with a Brave Bird from said Adamant Blaziken on a base 70 HP, you need 119 base DEF, or an increase of 54.  As Rekka notes, Megas tend to only change base stats slightly, relatively speaking; such a one-sided increase would be unprecedented. 

EDIT: No, actually, it wouldn't be unprecedented now that we have Diancie.  But still, it would be rather unusual.

[umiman]

I believe high jump kick is Blaziken's strongest STAB and does something like 300+ damage to a fully defensive specced Sceptile.

You'd basically have to run a max hp / max defense Sceptile to survive one hit, and even then you'd be at like 10 - 15% hp.

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Here's a Leafeon 1v6 sweep: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/randombattle-143119872

It's extremely lame.

[Tawa]

I wonder if they're going to adjust the rival battles for OR & AS. The difficulty, that is. I used to have a major problem with the May battles at the route to Mauville and the one that lets you get into the department store.

Thing is, I haven't actually lost a rival battle since I picked up HG and lost to Silver one last time in the Goldenrod basement, which I got around the second time by avoiding his gaze. Cheren on Route 4 was irritating because of... Sandstorm, I think (it's been three years), as was he on Route 5, and Barry used to give me trouble on the way into Heartwhatever City (haven't played Diamond in a year or so, haha).

But Serena, Shauna, Trevor, and Tierno were effing pushovers, as was Diantha (I lost to Cynthia once or twice, Lance's Dragonite were infuriating. Wallace never gave me trouble, because I always went the cheater route and Master Balled Rayquaza, who is level 70, for an easy win.)

On second thought, maybe for ORAS I'll take a different route and self-impose a No Legendaries in Official League Battles rule. That would be like showing up with a Deep One to fight for you at a cockfight, after all.

[RekkaAtsuma]

I wonder if they're going to adjust the rival battles for OR & AS. The difficulty, that is. I used to have a major problem with the May battles at the route to Mauville and the one that lets you get into the department store.

Thing is, I haven't actually lost a rival battle since I picked up HG and lost to Silver one last time in the Goldenrod basement, which I got around the second time by avoiding his gaze. Cheren on Route 4 was irritating because of... Sandstorm, I think (it's been three years), as was he on Route 5, and Barry used to give me trouble on the way into Heartwhatever City (haven't played Diamond in a year or so, haha).

But Serena, Shauna, Trevor, and Tierno were effing pushovers, as was Diantha (I lost to Cynthia once or twice, Lance's Dragonite were infuriating. Wallace never gave me trouble, because I always went the cheater route and Master Balled Rayquaza, who is level 70, for an easy win.)

On second thought, maybe for ORAS I'll take a different route and self-impose a No Legendaries in Official League Battles rule. That would be like showing up with a Deep One to fight for you at a cockfight, after all.

The RSE Mauville route battle is actually easy if you have the right check in your party.
If you chose torchic get a lotad first thing,
If you chose Mudkip, get a tailow first thing
if you chose Treecko, get a Maril ASAP

but after that one battle, the RSE rival fights are insanely weak, espeically considering you don't have many mandatory fights with them and the last, which gives access to DPT store is totally done at your desired time.
the one that always got me was the one leading into fortree...but again if you got the right checks...bingo.

And honestly, Shauna, Tierno and Trevor weren't terribly weak: Tierno for crying out loud comes in heavy the first fight and uses Swords Dance on a physcial brusier, albeit a frail one, but if you dont KO it quick, you'll be fighting uphill....sadly that's the maximum extent of epicness those three had.

Barry - reminds me of a jerkwad i used to know, so much so even has the same harido...i enjoyed making barry eat his words to the point of i literally prepared for him to bolt around each corner so he just wasn't tough to me

the GSC rival was fairly easy for me in all regards...only his Sneasel ever gave me trouble back in Gold Days, but thats cause i was using psychic religiously and still a pokemon newbie.

No one will ever beat the annoyance of my life Blue/Gary. UGH I -HATE- him!

[Aklyon]

Honestly, the X/Y group that followed you and your rival were just a bunch of extra trainer fights as far as i was interested. Too many people.

[Urist Imiknorris]

The RSE Mauville route battle is actually easy if you have the right check in your party.
If you chose torchic get a lotad first thing,
If you chose Mudkip, get a tailow first thing
if you chose Treecko, get a Marill ASAP

My list in Emerald boils down to: If Marshtomp, then Nuzleaf (bullet seed), else Zubat (wing attack).

The one rival fight that always got me was the one in Platinum right after leaving Hearthome. That Staravia is a dick.

[Tawa]

I agree with Aklyon. The gimmicks they had, like Trevor's Pokédex mania and Tierno's "dancing" that we never see bugged me too. Sorta like the Gym leaders' "hobbies"-- Grant and Burgh in particular.

Also, the Pokemon X&Y Nightmare Fuel TVTropes page provided me with this awesome information:

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After the incident with the Ultimate Weapon, apparently the player character is immortal like AZ because of its effects.

Also, do you guys remember the Fairy Tale Girls' quotes? They're effing scary.

[umiman]

I was quite the fan of the surprise unexplained ghost in the XY office building.

[Lightning4]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

After the incident with the Ultimate Weapon, apparently the player character is immortal like AZ because of its effects.

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Arguably, at least in X, the player would be immortal anyway as a result of catching and being around Xerneas. Though the Pokedex entry that shares this is only in Y: 'When the horns on its head shine in seven different colors, it is said to be sharing everlasting life.'

[Tawa]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

After the incident with the Ultimate Weapon, apparently the player character is immortal like AZ because of its effects.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Arguably, at least in X, the player would be immortal anyway as a result of catching and being around Xerneas. Though the Pokedex entry that shares this is only in Y: 'When the horns on its head shine in seven different colors, it is said to be sharing everlasting life.'

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Guess it's handy how easy it is to get into a battle with somebody who has a Xerneas, then.

[Neonivek]

Look we all know that the legendary pokemon don't have their abilities after you catch them... or fight them... or ever really demonstrate their abilities (Mystery Dungeon not withstanding... Though "time and space" really amount to... well nothing)

Hey Regigigas, what was that? you are strong enough to pull continents?

The game basically has three continuities. There is the gameplay, the story as you see it in game, and the story you see being told to you. These are all kept separate.

No this isn't a complaint. It is fairly typical of any game really. Pokémon is one of the better ones, especially lately starting with Sapphire and Ruby.

[Lightning4]

Yeah, though, I guess it all goes back to the theory that the pokedex entries are really just written by ten year olds.

[umiman]

Here's a battle I had no business winning. The opponent must have been so freaking pissed off. He got three legendaries and I got a team of mediocremons with the exception of Jolteon and possibly Frosslass.

If you are incredibly bored, feel free to count the number of times I would have straight out lost the game if something didn't miss or a paralyze didn't happen. Seriously, the game is just straight up bullshit.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/randombattle-147309995

[Culise]

Your opponent used Earthquake on an Air Balloon Magcargo *and* a Flying Pokemon, WoW on a Substitute, Ghost attacks on a Normal, and a Grass attack on a Flying type when s/he already knew you had no Grass-weak Pokemon to even switch in.  Besides, having 10-15 levels on your opponent counts for quite a bit (since legendaries tend to be around 70-76 when contrasted to weak Pokemon's 80s to 90s), as do clever plays.  I assure you, whatever you may think, you had every right to win.

But, to be serious, the only times I really think it counted were Giratina against Froslass (Turn 37), the freeze Turn 38, and maybe, just maybe the miss Turn 47, though that probably just was the difference between Fearow doing the job and going for the revenge-strike. 

[umiman]

He was trying to mindgame me with those things (other than the earthquake). For example, the will o wisp was because a normal player wouldn't stay in if there was no chance in hell of killing the enemy. But I just sat there wasting charges. He was waiting for me to switch and took awhile to realize I wasn't going to.