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Are you gonna get Pokemon Sword or Pokemon Shield?

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Waiting on the third one
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Waiting on the third AND fourth one
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Author Topic: A Thread about the Pokemans: POKEMANS ON MOTORCYCLES  (Read 684046 times)

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Re: A Thread about the Pokemans: Poll added!
« Reply #2370 on: December 04, 2013, 09:56:56 pm »

So is Pikachu the only Pokemon that still says its name or something? And if they made all the other Pokemon just screech or yowl, why does Pikachu still say "Pika pika!"?
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« Reply #2371 on: December 04, 2013, 10:11:49 pm »

So is Pikachu the only Pokemon that still says its name or something? And if they made all the other Pokemon just screech or yowl, why does Pikachu still say "Pika pika!"?
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Wont happen or already would've also they said in-game that mega evolution is only available for pokemon that where thought they cannot evolve any further. Meaning Pinsir and Heracross will never evolve outside of their megas, and neither will Scizor. Raichu thus destroys the hopes of anyone wishing for Mega-Pikachu

Personally I would like a Mega Kaputops Mega Volcorona & Mega Galvantula.
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« Reply #2372 on: December 04, 2013, 10:29:17 pm »

If we're making mega wishlists than I have a few.

Scrafty
Haxorus
All of the Psuedos
All of the starters(sap sipper or regenerator Mega swampert pls)
Jynx
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« Reply #2373 on: December 04, 2013, 10:55:56 pm »

If we're making mega wishlists than I have a few.

Scrafty
Haxorus
All of the Psuedos
All of the starters(sap sipper or regenerator Mega swampert pls)
Jynx
I agree with all starters.
they could've just left it at kanto Starters and made it only that gen, but intro'ing Mega-Blaziken made it obvious they are not beyond Making mega-starters for any generation.
I'll thus add Mega Delphox(not in this gen i know, curse you gf), Mega Empoleon & Mega Typhlosion to my list.
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« Reply #2374 on: December 06, 2013, 12:09:38 pm »

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So, I recently actually bothered to dive in to some competitive Pokemon through the tournament that Akroma put on. It was a neat tournament where we built a team as the tournament went on, giving time to respond to the other people in the tournament and learn how to build a team as you went. Of course the people who knew more did better, but it was a great way for me to take the bit that I knew and add on some actual experience.

Akroma and Culise are teaming up for the second tournament, starting very soon (need 1-3 more players to get to the desired 8-10 total). It's going on in Forum Games and Roleplaying (here) and it's way more involved and thought-out than the first one was. It puts some pretty interesting restrictions on team building based on the map that the tournament takes place on and some restrictions on TM availability based on gyms that have been completed, plus the idea of building a team as you go. It is a bit of a time investment, but not a whole heck of a lot. If you think it sounds interesting, check out the full information at the link: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=133981.0

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« Reply #2375 on: December 07, 2013, 02:41:17 am »

Just had an interesting battle on Showdown OU Beta ladder. I use my actual Pokemon Y team.

Spoiler: "My team" (click to show/hide)

The idea is to lead with Espeon, who immediately sets up Reflect and Light Screen. Then I look at the opponent's Pokemons. If there are no fire-types, I will bring out Scizor and Sword Dance to victory.

If there are fire-types, I will either use Azumarill and Belly Drum or Mega Charizard Y to remove any counters to Scizor. Sometimes I save Charizard Y for common steel-types such as Aegislash, Skarmory, Klefki, and Ferrothorn.

Venusaur takes advantage of the sun and walls water-types after they take the bait by Charizard Y. Avalugg is there to clear entry hazards but he is useless against spinblocker like Gengar plus I have three Pokemons weak to fire (Scizor, Venusaur, and Avalugg) so I am considering to change Avalugg to Tentacruel.

Below is the battle that's worth highlight as it's not a straightforward one-sided sweep:

http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oubeta-68045165

Any advise is appreciated. :)

EDIT: Another battle that was quite close: http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oubeta-68051993
« Last Edit: December 07, 2013, 03:20:58 am by BuriBuriZaemon »
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« Reply #2376 on: December 07, 2013, 03:20:48 am »

Tentacruel's a good pokemon, but remember that there's Defog to use as well. One strong flying-type later...
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« Reply #2377 on: December 07, 2013, 05:44:53 am »

Tentacruel's a good pokemon, but remember that there's Defog to use as well. One strong flying-type later...

I am considering Defog Togekiss or Crobat. I did notice my team seems to be walled by Will-o-Wisp, not sure what's a good counter to it.

Also, Avalugg just had a sweep (makes me want to keep him!):
http://pokemonshowdown.com/replay/oubeta-68066670
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« Reply #2378 on: December 07, 2013, 07:01:12 am »

So I've found Lucario-M is pretty much an Aegislash killer if it runs Earthquake.

252+ Atk Lucario Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Sword: 225-265 (69.4 - 81.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Lucario Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Sword: 449-529 (138.5 - 163.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Lucario Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 91-108 (28 - 33.3%) -- 0% chance to 3HKO
+2 252+ Atk Lucario Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 182-215 (56.1 - 66.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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« Reply #2379 on: December 07, 2013, 08:32:17 am »

So I've found Lucario-M is pretty much an Aegislash killer if it runs Earthquake.

252+ Atk Lucario Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Sword: 225-265 (69.4 - 81.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Lucario Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Sword: 449-529 (138.5 - 163.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Lucario Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 91-108 (28 - 33.3%) -- 0% chance to 3HKO
+2 252+ Atk Lucario Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 182-215 (56.1 - 66.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

I've seen Aegislash with Air Balloon so might want to take that into account. I'm preparing Prankster Klefki to deal with Aegislash myself. Swagger + Foul Play, yo!
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« Reply #2380 on: December 07, 2013, 08:42:40 am »

So I've found Lucario-M is pretty much an Aegislash killer if it runs Earthquake.

252+ Atk Lucario Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Sword: 225-265 (69.4 - 81.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Lucario Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Sword: 449-529 (138.5 - 163.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Lucario Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 91-108 (28 - 33.3%) -- 0% chance to 3HKO
+2 252+ Atk Lucario Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 182-215 (56.1 - 66.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

I've seen Aegislash with Air Balloon so might want to take that into account. I'm preparing Prankster Klefki to deal with Aegislash myself. Swagger + Foul Play, yo!

I was about to suggest the potential of an Aegislash being Choice Scarfed, but that seems like a silly idea. Just be careful of Sacred Sword and don't let Aegislash set up. Lucario might be squishy enough to be OHKO'd by a Swords Dance->Sacred Sword. If Aegislash is faster, he'll use Swords Dance, tank one Earthquake in Shield Form, then OHKO you by the next turn or the turn after.
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« Reply #2381 on: December 07, 2013, 10:07:46 am »

So I've found Lucario-M is pretty much an Aegislash killer if it runs Earthquake.

252+ Atk Lucario Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Sword: 225-265 (69.4 - 81.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Lucario Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Sword: 449-529 (138.5 - 163.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ Atk Lucario Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 91-108 (28 - 33.3%) -- 0% chance to 3HKO
+2 252+ Atk Lucario Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 182-215 (56.1 - 66.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

I've seen Aegislash with Air Balloon so might want to take that into account. I'm preparing Prankster Klefki to deal with Aegislash myself. Swagger + Foul Play, yo!

I was about to suggest the potential of an Aegislash being Choice Scarfed, but that seems like a silly idea. Just be careful of Sacred Sword and don't let Aegislash set up. Lucario might be squishy enough to be OHKO'd by a Swords Dance->Sacred Sword. If Aegislash is faster, he'll use Swords Dance, tank one Earthquake in Shield Form, then OHKO you by the next turn or the turn after.

Surely choice scarfed Aegislash can't outspeed a Jolly or even an Adamant Lucario-M? 112 base speed is fair.

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« Reply #2382 on: December 07, 2013, 11:16:44 am »

I'll tell you something very obvious for more experienced pokemon players.

The moment we see something like Espeon or Forretress or Smeargle in your team, it's like 90% chance you're going to lead with it.

The entire goal of a proper team is to be unpredictable as a predictable one gets smashed into oblivion. For example, let's look at your team. I see Espeon. 90% chance you'll lead with that, especially if you don't see particularly "countery" on my team. You could also lead with Charizard (which by the way I know will be Y as you have a Venusaur). I send out Mega Kangaskhan.

So you go about setting up reflect, I use power up punch. light screen, power up punch.

Then brick break.

Now what? Kangaskhan is now x4 power and you wasted two turns.

Suppose you led with Charizard instead. I don't really care because I knew it would come and I knew it would be Y. Mega Kangaskhan can still deal with that with a fake out into sucker punch or even a rock slide.

Espeon is ultra common. People will have a strategy for it.

For this reason, I suggest avoid the following leads unless you're mindgaming someone and only putting it in there for later use:
1. That electric spider thing that only exists to put down slow webs.
2. Smeargle. So easily countered it's stupid.
3. Forretress
4. Espeon
5. Ferrothorn

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« Reply #2383 on: December 07, 2013, 11:30:42 am »

1. That electric spider thing that only exists to put down slow webs.
Galvantula.
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« Reply #2384 on: December 07, 2013, 02:21:48 pm »

I actually had a bait-and-switch Galvantula at one point, I can't remember why but I don't think I used the slow webs, then I'd get out of there with a volt switch.
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