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Are you gonna get Pokemon Sword or Pokemon Shield?

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Author Topic: A Thread about the Pokemans: POKEMANS ON MOTORCYCLES  (Read 684896 times)

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« Reply #6855 on: April 02, 2022, 03:32:26 pm »

Learned something today. In Legends: Arceus, you can walk around during battles. You can even walk in-between the battling Pokemon. If one of the Pokemon uses a projectile-like move, like Energy Ball or Tri-Attack, you can get hit by it. It actually does hurt you slightly, though far less than when a Pokemon hits you outside of battle.
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« Reply #6856 on: April 02, 2022, 05:19:29 pm »

Can you screen your own pokemon from hits that way?

I recently picked the game up but haven't started playing it yet.
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« Reply #6857 on: April 02, 2022, 05:23:27 pm »

That'd be a hilarious way to win fights. Naming my pokemon "Mr. President" and then jumping in front of every attack, yelling "GET DOWN MR. PRESIDENT", only for my Cyndaquill or something to look at me like "What's this stupid human doing?"
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« Reply #6858 on: April 02, 2022, 07:54:45 pm »

Can you screen your own pokemon from hits that way?

I recently picked the game up but haven't started playing it yet.

I don't think so, I got hit in the back by my own Voltorb's Energy Ball. I'm pretty sure it still hit its target. I don't remember, I lost that fight anyway.

I'll also point out that getting hit by Tri-Attack, which shoots three projectiles, you can get hit by one shot and the other two will still travel to the target. A neat little detail, though would be neater if the damage was reduced by 33%/that shot's status effect wasn't applied.

That'd be a hilarious way to win fights. Naming my pokemon "Mr. President" and then jumping in front of every attack, yelling "GET DOWN MR. PRESIDENT", only for my Cyndaquill or something to look at me like "What's this stupid human doing?"

What Pokemon would be best suited for a name like "Mr. President"? Because that is a hilarious concept.
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« Reply #6859 on: April 02, 2022, 08:21:12 pm »

Not just projectiles, but any damaging move with animation that could reach you, which is surprisingly far for some. Trying to take one for the team won't work, though.

You could also escape on foot while battle is in progress, for that matter - Though more often it's when you attempt to start battle from high ground, only for something to decide you are out of range and end the battle immediately. I don't think it's working quite as intended.
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« Reply #6860 on: April 04, 2022, 03:08:42 am »

It actually does hurt you slightly, though far less than when a Pokemon hits you outside of battle.

I haven't noticed any damage incurred so far, except for drowning. Do your own pokemon's attacks or enemy swords dance deal damage too?

(Also, why do your pokemon get a platform to battle on long before you get basculegion, but you're left to sink if you weren't on it at battle start?)
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« Reply #6861 on: April 07, 2022, 03:35:22 pm »

I think I've hit some kind of plateau in terms of difficulty. Most of my team is around Lv.50-60, but most encounters near that level give little experience. Also, encounters at or above my level are more than capable of one-shotting any member of my team, and fainted Pokemon gain no experience. I can't progress through the story because
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There is an alpha Alakazam in the first zone with a very high level, but I haven't been able to capture it; it gives me a zero chance to catch even from behind with an Ultra Ball, and battling it is nearly impossible due to, again, one-shots on my entire team and the fact it loves abusing Agile-Recover to get a second turn, with which it will either Recover again or kill off another of my team.

It actually does hurt you slightly, though far less than when a Pokemon hits you outside of battle.

I haven't noticed any damage incurred so far, except for drowning.

I noticed it during some of the lord fights(where you have no recovery at all), I got hit by my own Pokemon's attack, and after the battle round was over I had a slight damage border on the screen. It's probable that you recover completely after a battle with a wild Pokemon, since you're no longer under threat then.
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« Reply #6862 on: April 07, 2022, 08:43:23 pm »

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« Reply #6863 on: April 08, 2022, 05:41:30 am »

I had max rank and a team of level 100's long before I reached that point, just fooling around and working on my pokedex. (My starter reached 100 in Mirelands, IIRC.) I think fighting alphas (even lower leveled) and using their exp candy provided the bulk of that. Internet says alpha Chansey and Blissey are best to grind and also give largest exp candy.

I've noticed super effective attacks seem to be more important than level in this game. I assume you've maxed your team's stats with grit?
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« Reply #6864 on: April 08, 2022, 10:11:57 pm »

Mirelands...That's, like, the second area available? That's some power-leveling.

I've been hoarding exp. and rare candies and effort dust/grit/pebbles etc. but still don't have nearly as much as I need for what I want to do. But then I haven't really played all that much.

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« Reply #6865 on: April 09, 2022, 03:23:31 am »

Yeah, when I saw Zoroark, I thought it was some Hisuian variant of Lycanroc. Hisuian Zoroark does look a bit like Midnight Form Lycanroc.

I had max rank and a team of level 100's long before I reached that point, just fooling around and working on my pokedex. (My starter reached 100 in Mirelands, IIRC.)

Seriously, what. When completing the Pokedex, are you trying to tick off every research objective, instead of the 10 you need to mark it complete? ...Is there anything that happens when you do?
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« Reply #6866 on: April 09, 2022, 04:20:04 am »

When completing the Pokedex, are you trying to tick off every research objective, instead of the 10 you need to mark it complete? ...Is there anything that happens when you do?
You get two bonuses to your shiny rate from your dex.  You get an extra 1 in 4096 (doubled from the base rate) when you get 10 points in research objectives.  You get an additional 1 in 2048 on top of that if you complete the page entirely.  The bonuses to shiny rate from these and other sources were likely changed to be additive rather than multiplicative bonuses so they don't get completely ridiculous with the mass outbreak bonuses, but you can still get it up to 1 in 128 by combining a perfect page with the shiny charm and a mass outbreak. 

Other than that, I don't think there's anything else other than the satisfaction of knowing you had your Magikarp use Splash 100 times.
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« Reply #6867 on: April 09, 2022, 09:41:12 pm »

I have two full boxes of shinies now.

Mirelands...That's, like, the second area available? That's some power-leveling.

I had Coastlands unlocked, but was in Mirelands when it happened.

Fun fact: You can get all the Fieldlands wisps without Sneasler or Braviary. (Didn't check if I could get the Mirelands ones, but you definitely need Sneasler for Coastlands, short of some kind of glitch.)

Other than that, I don't think there's anything else other than the satisfaction of knowing you had your Magikarp use Splash 100 times.

You'll be seeing more Splash than that if you decide to use Magikarp as a target for status moves.
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« Reply #6868 on: April 21, 2022, 11:33:19 am »

Now that I've had a chance to play Arceus some, I'm starting to wonder just how different the combat system is under the hood.  Pokemon feel like they're made out of tissue paper in some ways.  My pokemon tend to fold after just 2-3 hits, even from lower level pokemon and attacks that aren't super effective, so they spend quite a lot of time fainted.  I also almost 1-shot an alpha onix almost double my foatzel's level, just by using a water type attack.  That admittedly should be 4x effective, but the level difference should have mattered more than that I'd have thought.

I've also discovered that my pokemon seem to have gained zero effort values despite being in combat a fair bit, so I may just be doing something wrong.
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« Reply #6869 on: April 21, 2022, 11:51:38 am »

I looked it up, and apparently EVs can only be increased by using "Grit" items, like Grit Dust or Grit Rocks.
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